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Matthew 18:12-14 Sheep astray downward from the mountains
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1. Matthew 18:12-14 Sheep astray downward from the mountains

2. Matthew 18 Greatest and least in the kingdom
Discourse: (common theme is that of "greatest") Again: (repeat ideas presented but not in the same exact way) Through this: Bind and loose, glue and separate: (follows church conflict verses)

3. Matthew 18:1 Greatest
Matthew 18:1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? [kjv]
εν εκεινη τη ωρα προσηλθον οι μαθηται τω ιησου λεγοντες τις αρα μειζων εστιν εν τη βασιλεια των ουρανων [gnt]

Who is "greatest"? Who is "least"?
Greater than sign Less than sign
Both orgs 1 Org tree 2
Since chapter 17 is concerned with "greatness" and chapter 18 starts with the question to Jesus of who is "greatest", the question might have been motivated by chapter 17 and then that idea follows through with everything Jesus says in finishing this discourse in chapter 18.

In modern times, those who think themselves "great" are sometimes called the "elite".


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4. Matthew 18:12-14 Sheep astray downward from the mountains
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]

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Why did the chicken cross the road?

How might a typical attractive refrigerator magnet sermon for these verses go?

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5. Matthew 18:12 Translations
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]

NIV (New International Version): What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go to look for the one that wandered off?

NLT (New Living Translation): If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them wanders away, what will he do? Won’t he leave the ninety-nine others on the hills and go out to search for the one that is lost?

Berean Literal Bible: What do you? think? If unto any man there should be a hundred sheep, and one of them should go astray, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and, having gone, seek the one going astray?

6. Matthew 18:1 Think about it
Remember that this entire discourse of Matthew 18 started with who is "greatest".
Matthew 18:1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? [kjv]
εν εκεινη τη ωρα προσηλθον οι μαθηται τω ιησου λεγοντες τις αρα μειζων εστιν εν τη βασιλεια των ουρανων [gnt]

Would a "sheep" become a "bird" or "eye" or "leader" by deception to become "greatest" to "entrap" or attract "fish" or "feet" or "many" with their "opinion" or "candle" to a "city" (that cannot be "hid") on a "mountain" ?

To get started, one needs to create the deceptions or "entrapments" as opinions or "candles" or "definition". The Greek word for "definition" and "mountain" is the same word.

What do you think? What is your opinion? Would an opinion by Jesus carry any weight?

The word for "think" is that of "opinion" and is a play on words with the "beam" as an "expectation" in Matthew 7.

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7. Expectations
Beam and think

An expectation, sometimes a delusion, is something that you think should happen or be true. Consider the following as play on words. Both words start with the same three letters but then have different endings/inflections.

It is interesting that the word for "expectation" is related to the word for "dogma" as a "teaching" as in an "opinion" with "expectation".

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8. A dogmatic opinion about dogmas
The ancient Greek word "δόγμα""opinion, belief" is from the ancient Greek word "δοκέω""expect, think, suppose" which is from the ancient Greek word "δέχομαι""take, accept".

It appears that the modern Greek word "δόγμα" (THO-gma) ≈ "dogma, doctrine" has been influenced by the narrowing of the word in other languages and theological decisions.

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9. Strongs - thinking
*G1380 *62 δοκέω (dok-eh'-o) : a prolonged form of a primary verb, doko dok'-o (used only in an alternate in certain tenses; compare the base of G1166) of the same meaning; to think; by implication, to seem (truthfully or uncertainly):--be accounted, (of own) please(-ure), be of reputation, seem (good), suppose, think, trow.
Word usage per chapter Words: δοκει=20 δοκειν δοκεις δοκειτε=10 δοκη δοκουμεν δοκουν δοκουντα δοκουντες=3 δοκουντων δοκουσα δοκουσιν=2 δοκω=2 δοκων δοξαντες=2 δοξη=2 δοξητε δοξω εδοκει εδοκουν=2 εδοξα εδοξαν=2 εδοξε=2 εδοξεν=2


Think and interests (money)

Jesus uses this word 3 times in Matthew. How do each fit the idea of the play on words?

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10. Matthew 18:12 Thinking interest in money
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]

Think and interests (money)

How might what Jesus says here have something to do with "thinking" about "money (interest)" and/or "childbirth/children"?

Might the "sheep" have been enticed/entrapped to go "astray" due to a deception of "money/interest"? Might this be related to the "millstone" "entrapment"?

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11. Tiberius Caesar and sheep
Luke 3:1 Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, … [kjv]

Sheep
Emperor Tiberius Caesar (on taxes): It is the duty of a good shepherd to shear his sheep, not to skin them.

At the same time, Jesus was walking and teaching in Judea. Jesus had a different idea about what it meant to be a "good" "shepherd".

John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. [kjv]
εγω ειμι ο ποιμην ο καλος ο ποιμην ο καλος την ψυχην αυτου τιθησιν υπερ των προβατων [gnt]

9 AD: Arminius organizes Germans and slaughters Roman Legions under Varus at Teutoburg Forest


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12. Matthew 17:25 Thinking interest in money
Matthew 17:25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? [kjv]
λεγει ναι και ελθοντα εις την οικιαν προεφθασεν αυτον ο ιησους λεγων τι σοι δοκει σιμων οι βασιλεις της γης απο τινων λαμβανουσιν τελη η κηνσον απο των υιων αυτων η απο των αλλοτριων [gnt]

Think and interests (money)

How might what Jesus says here have something to do with "thinking" about "money (interest)" and/or "childbirth/children"?

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13. Matthew 21:28 Thinking interest in money
Matthew 21:28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. [kjv]
τι δε υμιν δοκει ανθρωπος ειχεν τεκνα δυο προσελθων τω πρωτω ειπεν τεκνον υπαγε σημερον εργαζου εν τω αμπελωνι [gnt]

Think and interests (money)

How might what Jesus says here have something to do with "thinking" about "money (interest)" and/or "childbirth/children"?

14. Matthew 18:12 Man
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]

Who is the man?

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15. Identity of the man in dative in Matthew
Jesus tends to use nouns as key words. And Jesus tends to use nouns in a particular case (e.g., dative, genitive, etc.) in a particular way. In Matthew, Jesus uses the noun "man" in the dative case in a particular way nine times in Matthew. One of these verses is used in a way different than the usual interpretation.

As often happens, the TR (Textus Receptus) uses the word in that case in an inappropriate way that breaks the model. The TR adds this noun in the dative case one time in a way that breaks the model.

Matthew sometimes uses this word in filling in connecting commentary and appears to be unaware of any special meaning for a given word in a given case, etc. Such verses will be omitted.

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16. Matthew 18:12 Sheep
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]

Sheep - yellow Sheep and before the bush

Sheep have a tendency
to "walk before"
or "wander away".
The ancient Greek word "πρόβατα""sheep" and comes from the literal words "before" and "walk".

Jesus wants "believers" to "walk" "before" with "good works". Might that require "walking away" from the "birds"?

17. Matthew 18:12
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]


18. Planets as wandering stars
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. [kjv]
πολλοι γαρ ελευσονται επι τω ονοματι μου λεγοντες εγω ειμι ο χριστος και πολλους πλανησουσιν [gnt]

Planets in ancient times True goal False goal
How does a "sheep" know if it has gone or is going "astray"? How "many" is "many"?
The ancient Greek word "πλάνη""wandering, roaming" and, figuratively, "going astray" or "in error". as in wandering off-target. The English word "planet" comes from this Greek word as a shortened form of "wandering star" since planets were considered wandering stars. The modern Greek word "πλανήτης" (pla-NEE-tees) ≈ "planet".

Discuss: Consider the billions of people throughout the ages. Are the "many" a few insurrectionists from the first century or so who led a few thousand followers?


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19. Ezekiel 14:9
Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. [kjv]
και ο προφητης εαν πλανηθη και λαληση εγω κυριος πεπλανηκα τον προφητην εκεινον και εκτενω την χειρα μου επ αυτον και αφανιω αυτον εκ μεσου του λαου μου ισραηλ [lxx]

The ancient Greek word "φαίνω""make known, reveal" which is the source of the English words such as "phantom" and "phenomena" (both things that "appear").

The alpha prefix negates the meaning of a word, so the ancient Greek word "αφανιζω""conceal, disappear". A context is needed to support the thing concealed being destroyed.

20. Ezekiel 14:9
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KJV: And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
Hebrew: והנביא כי יפתה ודבר דבר אני יהוה פתיתי את הנביא ההוא ונטיתי את ידי עליו והשמדתיו מתוך עמי ישראל׃
Greek: και ο προφητης εαν πλανηθη και λαληση εγω κυριος πεπλανηκα τον προφητην εκεινον και εκτενω την χειρα μου επ αυτον και αφανιω αυτον εκ μεσου του λαου μου ισραηλ

21. Matthew 18:12 Sell astray
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]


Go astray and to be sold To be sold and astray yes

In the parable of the unforgiving servant, at the end of this chapter, the lord commands to "sell" the "woman", "children", etc. Might this have been what that "servant" was doing to others? Might this be a "sheep" that was thus "sold"? Perhaps this was a deceptive "wander", "yes", the "millstone" not being noticed by the one "sold".

In Greek the "L" and "R" sounds were more similar than in English.

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22. Matthew 18:12 On six
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]

In and one Out of and six TenPin 5

The word for "one", same Greek spelling as "in", and the word for "six", same Greek spelling as "out", appear a few times near each other in the sayings of Jesus in Matthew . Might this be just a coincidence? Consider the "one" as node 1 and "six" as nodes 2 to 7 (day day day night night night) in the seven pins (kingdom of heaven) in the ten pin model?

23. Matthew 10:29
Matthew 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. [kjv]
ουχι δυο στρουθια ασσαριου πωλειται και εν εξ αυτων ου πεσειται επι την γην ανευ του πατρος υμων [gnt]

The exact ancient Greek words "εν""one" and "εξ""six" appear 2 times in Matthew, 2 times in Luke (repeating the idea of the Matthew verses) and 4 times in the LXX (Septuagint).

24. Matthew 10:29
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KJV: Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
Greek: ουχι δυο στρουθια ασσαριου πωλειται και εν εξ αυτων ου πεσειται επι την γην ανευ του πατρος υμων

25. Psalms 34:20
Psalms 34:20 He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken. [kjv]
κυριος φυλασσει παντα τα οστα αυτων εν εξ αυτων ου συντριβησεται [lxx]


26. Psalms 34:20
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KJV: He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
Hebrew: שמר כל עצמותיו אחת מהנה לא נשברה׃
Greek: κυριος φυλασσει παντα τα οστα αυτων εν εξ αυτων ου συντριβησεται

27. Exodus 31:17
Exodus 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. [kjv]
εν εμοι και τοις υιοις ισραηλ σημειον εστιν αιωνιον οτι εν εξ ημεραις εποιησεν κυριος τον ουρανον και την γην και τη ημερα τη εβδομη επαυσατο και κατεπαυσεν [lxx]


28. Exodus 31:17
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KJV: It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Hebrew: ביני ובין בני ישראל אות הוא לעלם כי ששת ימים עשה יהוה את השמים ואת הארץ וביום השביעי שבת וינפש׃
Greek: εν εμοι και τοις υιοις ισραηλ σημειον εστιν αιωνιον οτι εν εξ ημεραις εποιησεν κυριος τον ουρανον και την γην και τη ημερα τη εβδομη επαυσατο και κατεπαυσεν

29. David in Kings and Chronicles
2 Samuel 24:12 Go and say unto David, Thus saith the LORD, I offer thee three things; choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee. [kjv]
πορευθητι και λαλησον προς δαυιδ λεγων ταδε λεγει κυριος τρια εγω ειμι αιρω επι σε και εκλεξαι σεαυτω εν εξ αυτων και ποιησω σοι [lxx]

1 Chronicles 21:10 Go and tell David, saying, Thus saith the LORD, I offer thee three things: choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee. [kjv]
πορευου και λαλησον προς δαυιδ λεγων ουτως λεγει κυριος τρια αιρω εγω επι σε εκλεξαι σεαυτω εν εξ αυτων και ποιησω σοι [lxx]


30. 2 Samuel 24:12
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KJV: Go and say unto David, Thus saith the LORD, I offer thee three things; choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee.
Hebrew: הלוך ודברת אל דוד כה אמר יהוה שלש אנכי נוטל עליך בחר לך אחת מהם ואעשה לך׃
Greek: πορευθητι και λαλησον προς δαυιδ λεγων ταδε λεγει κυριος τρια εγω ειμι αιρω επι σε και εκλεξαι σεαυτω εν εξ αυτων και ποιησω σοι

31. 1 Chronicles 21:10
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KJV: Go and tell David, saying, Thus saith the LORD, I offer thee three things: choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee.
Hebrew: לך ודברת אל דויד לאמר כה אמר יהוה שלוש אני נטה עליך בחר לך אחת מהנה ואעשה לך׃
Greek: πορευου και λαλησον προς δαυιδ λεγων ουτως λεγει κυριος τρια αιρω εγω επι σε εκλεξαι σεαυτω εν εξ αυτων και ποιησω σοι

32. Matthew 18:12 Ninety nine
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]
nonaginta novem … [v]

Greek letter Greek letter Greek letter
Hebrew letter Hebrew letter
The ancient Greek words "ἐνενήκοντα""ninety" and "ἐννέα""nine". The Greek letter Qoppa disappeared, except as a number, as the Greeks already had the Kappa with the same sound. Unique sounds for letters made Greek easier to learn to read and write, provided one grew up as a child learning the language.
The modern Greek words "ενενήντα" (eh-neh-NEE-da) ≈ "ninety" and "εννιά" (ehn-nee-A) ≈ "nine". The Latin word "novem""nine".

33. Matthew 18:12 One fresh nine
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]
nonaginta novem … [v]

Nine and one new

The ancient Greek word "νεανίσκος""young man" and comes from "νεανίας""young man" and comes from "νέος""young, new, fresh" and is related to the Latin word "novus""new". Who might be the "one" "new/fresh"? ν

34. Matthew 19:22 Young man
Matthew 19:22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. [kjv]
ακουσας δε ο νεανισκος τον λογον τουτον απηλθεν λυπουμενος ην γαρ εχων κτηματα πολλα [gnt]
autem adulescens verbumtristismultas possessiones [v]

The ancient Greek word "νεανίσκος""young man" and comes from "νεανίας""young man" and comes from "νέος""young, new, fresh" and is related to the Latin word "novus""new" and the English word "new" and the German word "neu""new". The suffix makes the "youth" a diminutive. The Latin word "adulescens""young, youthful".

The English word "meniscus" comes from the Latin "meniscus""lunar crescent" which comes from the ancient Greek word "μηνίσκος""crescent" and, literally, "little" "moon". In anatomy, a "meniscus" is a crescent-shaped padding structure between both leg bones at the knee joint. The modern Greek word "μενίσκος" (meh-NEE-skos) ≈ "lunar crescent".

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35. Matthew 18:12 Ninety
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]
nonaginta novem … [v]

Ninety and one one or short

Who might be the "one" "one"? How about the "child" and "Jesus" together in the "middle"?

What about the "or" "short"?

36. Short
Ninety and one one or short

The ancient Greek word "κοντός""short" and comes from the sense of a "pole" as in a "spear", being "short". A synonym is "βραχύς""short, brief, few".

The modern Greek word "κοντός" (ko-DOS) ≈ "short (height)" . Should you be closer to a "long" "speer" (related to "tree") or a "short" "speer" (not trying to be great)? The original idea of the "long" "speer" was a circular arrangement of men bearing long spears to protect the leader in the middle. The modern meaning is that of a satellite.

37. Matthew 18:12 Put it together
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]
nonaginta novem … [v]

Ninety and one one or short Nine and one new
As a code word, or as part of a word in a play on words, the Greek word "κοντά""short" appears to mean a form of fixed-point as in reflexively collected together.
Who might be the "one" "one" combined together (reflexive fixed point) with "one" "new"? If there are "two" (who agree), the "child" and Jesus, is the use of plural valid even if there is only one "child" involved? Might you be a "pearl" if you have a "short" "spear", being "one" "one" with Jesus? How about a "short" "sword"? Do you get the point?

38. Matthew 6:12 Forgiving debts
Matthew 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. [kjv]
και αφες ημιν τα οφειληματα ημων ως και ημεις αφηκαμεν τοις οφειλεταις ημων [gnt]

Forgive and snakes
Might the first "debts" be those the "snakes" think we "owe"?
The Greek for "forgive" as that of "letting go" where there is the idea of separation. The ancient Greek word "ἀφίημι""send away, let pass".

The Greek for "debts" has to do with an obligation to someone, such as "owing" money. It could be any obligation. Luke uses the word Greek word for "sins" whereas Matthew uses the word for "owing".

[sin not undo death]


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39. Forgive the word slide
Let go in Greek
In addition to the Latin split of the words and meanings, many of the English meanings have changed from when the Latin was used as the basis of translation.

Italian phrase : "Traduttore, traditore""The translator is the traitor".
The ancient Greek word "ἀφίημι""send forth, send away" and is the word often used by the KJV (King James Version) for "suffer" as in "allow". This Greek word was translated using three (or more) Latin words. The "miss" of "dismiss" is related to the last part of the word "Christmas" and to the English word "mission".

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40. Matthew 18:12 Sheep and mountains
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]

100 sheep

100=99+1
The Greek says "man" and not "shepherd". In the parables, Jesus uses (and then explains) the code word "man" to refer to "Jesus as God".

Why is the "hundred" important? Are the 99 "on" the "mountains" in danger when the "man" "leaves"? The only direction from "on" the "mountains" is down, down, down, eventually to the "sea".
How does Jesus reinforces the "ninety and nine" to avoid the "one cookie rule"?

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41. Into the sea
Swine into the sea Sheep into the sea 100 sheep Ninety and one one or short Nine and one new Midst 3
Is there a connection?
  • "Down" from the "mountain". Is this to "cut off" an "eye", "hand" or "foot"?
  • "Sea sinking" in the "sea" of the "sea" from a "millstone".

How might any related "conflict" be "resolved" within the "church"? A "city" on a "hill" that is "under water" cannot be "hid" because it is already "hid" "under water" as a "grave" which is a play on words with "the light" (false "light").

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42. Matthew 18:6 Sea of the sea of the sea
Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. [kjv]
ος δ αν σκανδαλιση ενα των μικρων τουτων των πιστευοντων εις εμε συμφερει αυτω ινα κρεμασθη μυλος ονικος περι τον τραχηλον αυτου και καταποντισθη εν τω πελαγει της θαλασσης [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "καταποντίζω""sink in the sea" which could, in context, mean drowning, comes from two Greek words. Greek: Sink in the sea in the sea of the sea. [downward trend into the pit or abyss]

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43. Matthew 18:6 Sea of the sea of the sea
Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. [kjv]
ος δ αν σκανδαλιση ενα των μικρων τουτων των πιστευοντων εις εμε συμφερει αυτω ινα κρεμασθη μυλος ονικος περι τον τραχηλον αυτου και καταποντισθη εν τω πελαγει της θαλασσης [gnt]

The following are synonyms in Greek: "πόντος""sea" and "πέλαγος""sea" and "θάλασσα""sea". The verse does not mention "drowning". The idea is that of going in a downward direction. To carry two ideas together, this might be called the "millstone" "entrapment" or "deception".

Paraphrase: ... and sank down in the sea in the sea of the sea.

[the pit or abyss, Jonah going down, down, down, one sheep going down the mountain]
[many chances - but keep sinking deeper]

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44. 1 Peter 5:8 Adversaries
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: [kjv]
νηψατε γρηγορησατε ο αντιδικος υμων διαβολος ως λεων ωρυομενος περιπατει ζητων καταπιειν [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "ἀντίδικος""legal opponent" but could, in general, mean any opponent. The literal meaning is that of someone "in place of you or yours".

Peter says that the "devil" is the "adversary". Can the "adversary" work through others? In the temptation of Jesus, Jesus does not dispute who controls the kingdoms (mountains) of the world. Here is one progression. Discuss: Are people who offer at the altar watched? Are there fish (spies) reporting back through the pigs to the birds? What happens if the sheep do anything wrong according to the rules of the bird house?

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45. Matthew 5:25 Adversary
Matthew 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [kjv]
ισθι ευνοων τω αντιδικω σου ταχυ εως οτου ει μετ αυτου εν τη οδω μηποτε σε παραδω ο αντιδικος τω κριτη και ο κριτης τω υπηρετη και εις φυλακην βληθηση [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "ἀντίδικος""legal opponent" but could, in general, mean any opponent. The literal meaning is that of someone "in place of you or yours".

The literal parts of the Greek word for "adversary" are "in place of" and "having right".

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46. Matthew 5:25 Judge
Matthew 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [kjv]
ισθι ευνοων τω αντιδικω σου ταχυ εως οτου ει μετ αυτου εν τη οδω μηποτε σε παραδω ο αντιδικος τω κριτη και ο κριτης τω υπηρετη και εις φυλακην βληθηση [gnt]

The Greek for "judge" has the meaning of "separation" into parts. A person as a "judge", such as Pilate, may have authority over all three parts. English uses the same word for all three parts whereas the Gerek had a different word for each part. In context, the word for part 1 might imply parts 2 and 3. In this context, Jesus appears to be using the word "judge" for a "bird" or "false leader" in the religious institution, who tends to be involved in these three parts of the "judge" process. [birds judging heaven and/or hell]

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47. Matthew 5:25 Officer
Matthew 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [kjv]
ισθι ευνοων τω αντιδικω σου ταχυ εως οτου ει μετ αυτου εν τη οδω μηποτε σε παραδω ο αντιδικος τω κριτη και ο κριτης τω υπηρετη και εις φυλακην βληθηση [gnt]

The Greek word translated as "officer" is that of someone "under the rowing" which later took on the meaning of someone (e.g., a "pig") working under someone else (e.g., a "bird").

The ancient Greek word "ὑπηρέτης""rower, assistant performing manual work for another" which appears to fit the model of a "pig" working for a "bird". This exact form of the word for "officer" is appears two times in the GNT (Greek New Testament). In the other usage, in Luke 4:20, the translation is "minister" as in a religious "official" who runs a part of the religious institution.

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48. Matthew 5:25 Officer
Matthew 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [kjv]
ισθι ευνοων τω αντιδικω σου ταχυ εως οτου ει μετ αυτου εν τη οδω μηποτε σε παραδω ο αντιδικος τω κριτη και ο κριτης τω υπηρετη και εις φυλακην βληθηση [gnt]

In Godfather terms, the "officer" or "pig" as "influencer" or "enforcer" is the "muscle" while the Godfather relates to a "bird".

In Roman times the title of "procurator" was used for those who controlled finances.

Future topic Details are left as a future topic.



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49. To see a timely prison watch
Matthew 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [kjv]
ισθι ευνοων τω αντιδικω σου ταχυ εως οτου ει μετ αυτου εν τη οδω μηποτε σε παραδω ο αντιδικος τω κριτη και ο κριτης τω υπηρετη και εις φυλακην βληθηση [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "φυλακή""watch, prison" where "prison" was one way to be "watched". The Greek word is the source of the English word "prophylactic".

14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea. [kjv]
τεταρτη δε φυλακη της νυκτος ηλθεν προς αυτους περιπατων επι την θαλασσαν [gnt]

Jesus wants believers to "walk" in "righteousness" in the "sea" of "humanity" and be "fishers" of "men" and not "fishers" of "pigs" or "birds".

The modern Greek word "φυλακή" (fee-la-KEE) ≈ "watch, prison".

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50. Word comparison
Matthew 18:6 drowned in the depth of the sea. [kjv]
καταποντισθη εν τω πελαγει της θαλασσης [gnt]

5:25 … the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [kjv]
… ο αντιδικοςκριτη και ο κριτης τω υπηρετη και εις φυλακην βληθηση [gnt]

bird eye "πόντος""sea" [pontiff] adversary [in place of right]
fish foot "τω πέλαγος""sea" [place pit, dark there] separator [called]
pig hand "θάλασσα""sea" (salt) rower (muscle)

In each case, one ends up in the "watch" or "prison" or "sanctuary".

51. Matthew 18:5,12 On the mountains of definitions
Matthew 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. [kjv]
και ος εαν δεξηται εν παιδιον τοιουτο επι τω ονοματι μου εμε δεχεται [gnt]

18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "επι""on" as in the first part of the English word "epicenter" as "on" the "center".

52. Matthew 18:5,12 Accept a one go astray
Matthew 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. [kjv]
και ος εαν δεξηται εν παιδιον τοιουτο επι τω ονοματι μου εμε δεχεται [gnt]
18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]

Changing the translation of both words tends to obscure the connection. Here are two choices using the Greek word for "on".

53. Matthew 18:12 Mountain and mountains
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]

The "sheep" are "on" the "mountains" or "definitions".

Which is harder? Why might Jesus have used the plural for "mountains" rather than singular?

54. Review of separation from love of Christ
Romans 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [kjv]
πεπεισμαι γαρ οτι ουτε θανατος ουτε ζωη ουτε αγγελοι ουτε αρχαι ουτε ενεστωτα ουτε μελλοντα ουτε δυναμεις [gnt]
8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. [kjv]
ουτε υψωμα ουτε βαθος ουτε τις κτισις ετερα δυνησεται ημας χωρισαι απο της αγαπης του θεου της εν χριστω ιησου τω κυριω ημων [gnt]

Some pastors will make the bold claim that "Nothing can separate us from the love of Christ". From the Greek text, the only "other (different)" "creature" that can separate "you" from the "love of Christ" is "you". So, Paul's list omits "false teaching", "deception", and other things that he covers in following chapters.

Discussion: What might be an ulterior motive as to why a pastor would make such a claim that does not fit the text?

Some pastors will search up to 15 different English versions to find one (or two) that have mistranslations that can then be appropriately twisted to proclaim that "nothing can separate you from the love of Christ".

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55. Separation build
Romans 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [kjv]
8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. [kjv]


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Here is a build summary of the steps.

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56. Usage - send away or let go
*G863 *142 ἀφίημι (af-ee'-ay-mee) : from G575 and hiemi (to send; an intensive form of eimi, to go); to send forth, in various applications (as follow):--cry, forgive, forsake, lay aside, leave, let (alone, be, go, have), omit, put (send) away, remit, suffer, yield up.
Word usage per chapter Words: αφεθη=3 αφεθησαν αφεθησεται=12 αφειναι=2 αφεις=7 αφεντες=15 αφες=15 αφετε=10 αφεωνται=6 αφη=3 αφηκα αφηκαμεν=3 αφηκαν=2 αφηκατε αφηκεν=19 αφηκες αφησει=2 αφησεις αφησουσιν αφησω=2 αφητε=5 αφιεναι=5 αφιενται=4 αφιεται=5 αφιετε=3 αφιετω=2 αφιημι=2 αφιησιν=4 αφιομεν αφιουσιν αφωμεν ηφιεν=2

The ancient Greek word "ἀφίημι""send away, let pass" as in "forgive". The exact form of the Greek word «αφησει» is used three times in the GNT, all by Jesus, in the sheep gone astray verse and the following verse pair. Note: The chart does not show the Greek manuscript using the word the third time [programming issue to be resolved].

57. Matthew 6:14-15 Going astray in pursuit
Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: [kjv]
εαν γαρ αφητε τοις ανθρωποις τα παραπτωματα αυτων αφησει και υμιν ο πατηρ υμων ο ουρανιος [gnt]
6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. [kjv]
εαν δε μη αφητε τοις ανθρωποις τα παραπτωματα αυτων ουδε ο πατηρ υμων αφησει τα παραπτωματα υμων [gnt]

The word often translated as "trespass" is the ancient Greek word "παράπτωσις""impetuous pursuit, going astray". The parts of the word mean, literally, going "beyond falling" as in "fault" of imperfection. A general English phrase for this might be "stupid things" that are done (by you or others).

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58. Forgive build

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59. Matthew 18:12 Sheep and mountains
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]


60. Matthew 18:12 Sheep and mountains
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]

100=80+20 sheep
The next verses (omitted) address church conflict resolution.

61. Matthew 18:12
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KJV: How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
Greek: τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφεις αφησει τα εννενηκονταεννεα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον
Latin: quid vobis videtur si fuerint alicui centum oves et erraverit una ex eis nonne relinquet nonaginta novem in montibus et vadit quaerere eam quae erravit

62. Matthew 18:13
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KJV: And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
Greek: και εαν γενηται ευρειν αυτο αμην λεγω υμιν οτι χαιρει επ αυτω μαλλον η επι τοις εννενηκονταεννεα ενενηκοντα εννεα τοις μη πεπλανημενοις

63. Matthew 18:14
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KJV: Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Greek: ουτως ουκ εστιν θελημα εμπροσθεν του πατρος υμων μου του εν ουρανοις ινα αποληται εις εν των μικρων τουτων

64. Matthew 18:13 Rather more
Matthew 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]
και εαν γενηται ευρειν αυτο αμην λεγω υμιν οτι χαιρει επ αυτω μαλλον η επι τοις ενενηκοντα εννεα τοις μη πεπλανημενοις [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "μᾶλλον""rather" as in "rather than". In a comparison, in context, it could be "rather more". The modern Greek word "μάλλον" (MAL-lon) ≈ "rather, more precisely".

That is, there is no need to "rejoice" over sheep who have not left and had no need to return. "Rather", the rejoicing is over the sheep that left and then returned. In that restrictive sense it is "more".

To emphasize or over-emphasize the "more" is common in ARMS (Attractive Refrigerator Magnet Sermons).

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65. Matthew 18:13 Pronouns
Matthew 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]
και εαν γενηται ευρειν αυτο αμην λεγω υμιν οτι χαιρει επ αυτω μαλλον η επι τοις ενενηκοντα εννεα τοις μη πεπλανημενοις [gnt]

* Masc.
Sing.
Masc.
Plural
Fem.
Sing.
Fem.
Plural
Neuter
Sing.
Neuter
Plural
Nom. αὐτὁς αὐτοί αὐτἡ αὐταί αὐτό αὐτά
Gen. αὐτοῦ αὐτῶν αὐτῆς αὐτῶν αὐτοῦ αὐτῶν
Dat. αὐτῷ αὐτοῖς αὐτῇ αὐταῖς αὐτῷ αὐτοῖς
Acc. αὐτόν αὐτούς αὐτήν αὐτάς αὐτό αὐτά

Greek: ... and if (he/it) comes into being finding he/it (sheep) ... that does (he/it) (shepherd/sheep) rejoice on he/it (sheep/shepherd) rather or ... ?

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66. Matthew 18:13
Matthew 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]
και εαν γενηται ευρειν αυτο αμην λεγω υμιν οτι χαιρει επ αυτω μαλλον η επι τοις ενενηκοντα εννεα τοις μη πεπλανημενοις [gnt]

Greek: ... and if (he/it) comes into being finding he/it (sheep) ... that does (he/it) (shepherd/sheep) rejoice on he/it (sheep/shepherd) rather or ... ?

To which does the second part of the verse refer (since the pronouns used can refer to either shepherd or sheep)? Why would a sheep that finds the shepherd rejoice over the ones that did not go astray?

67. Matthew 18:3,12-13,19 Come into being
Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. [kjv]
18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]
18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. [kjv]

The "sheep" had "come into being". The "one" that was lost "came into being" again. This is the word used in John as "born" "again" or "born" "from above".

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68. Matthew 18:13 Rejoice
Matthew 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]
και εαν γενηται ευρειν αυτο αμην λεγω υμιν οτι χαιρει επ αυτω μαλλον η επι τοις ενενηκοντα εννεα τοις μη πεπλανημενοις [gnt]

The words "that sheep" are added in the KJV since the one that went "astray" is, by analogy, a "sheep" but, in reality, a "little one" as a "believer".

What if the "little ones" that are "forgiven" decide to "leave" and separate themselves to follow the one "sheep" that has gone "astray"?

69. Matthew 18:13 Questionable statement
Consider the one lost sheep and the ninety-nine sheep that did not go astray.
Matthew 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]
και εαν γενηται ευρειν αυτο αμην λεγω υμιν οτι χαιρει επ αυτω μαλλον η επι τοις ενενηκοντα εννεα τοις μη πεπλανημενοις [gnt]

Greek word order: and if come-into-being find he/it amen/verily I-say to-you that rejoices on he/it rather or on the ninety nine that not gone-astray.

The Greek word translated as "than" is the ancient Greek word "ἢ""or" as a disjunction. In Greek, a statement can be made a question just by changing the way the end of the statement is pronounced. You hear it. Right?

Paraphrase (as a question): And if (it) comes into being that (he) find it (the lost sheep), verily I say to you, does (he/it) rejoices rather on him/it or on the ninety nine that did not go astray?

70. Matthew 18:13 Questionable statement
Matthew 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]
και εαν γενηται ευρειν αυτο αμην λεγω υμιν οτι χαιρει επ αυτω μαλλον η επι τοις ενενηκοντα εννεα τοις μη πεπλανημενοις [gnt]

Paraphrase (as a question): And if (it) comes into being that (he) find it (the lost sheep), verily I say to you, does (he/it) rejoices rather on him/it or on the ninety nine that did not go astray?

There are (at least) three possible answers to the question. Discuss: How many sermons make deep theological points on what appears to be a question for discussion rather than a statement of fact?

[Questionable logic in James]

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71. Matthew 18:14 Before the Father
Matthew 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. [kjv]
ουτως ουκ εστιν θελημα εμπροσθεν του πατρος μου του εν ουρανοις ινα αποληται εν των μικρων τουτων [gnt]

The KJV translates as "of" the Greek word that means "before" or "in front of". The ancient Greek word "ἔμπροσθεν""before, in front" and, in the case of time, "earlier"

From Matthew 5:16, one is to let the light of Jesus shine (as good works) before men (but not so that they see you).

72. Matthew 5:16 Positive advice
Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. [kjv]
ουτως λαμψατω το φως υμων εμπροσθεν των ανθρωπων οπως ιδωσιν υμων τα καλα εργα και δοξασωσιν τον πατερα υμων τον εν τοις ουρανοις [gnt]

Sheep
Who is your light?

If Jesus is your "light", do you need to "light" a "candle" or "opinion"?

The ancient Greek word "ἔμπροσθεν""before, in front" and, in the case of time, "earlier"
Jesus is also your "head".

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73. Matthew 18:14 One of the little ones
Matthew 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. [kjv]
ουτως ουκ εστιν θελημα εμπροσθεν του πατρος μου του εν ουρανοις ινα αποληται εν των μικρων τουτων [gnt]

Little ones and separation
Does Jesus use the words "little ones" to refer to believers (of all ages)?

Might "the little ones" be those who have "separated" themselves in some way? They could have been "separated" from the beginning.
The "one" of the "little ones" or "sheep" includes many, perhaps you!

To be "greater" one needs to be a "leader" and attract "followers" to "influence" other "sheep", "fish", etc.

74. Matthew 18:14 What might happen
Matthew 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. [kjv]
ουτως ουκ εστιν θελημα εμπροσθεν του πατρος μου του εν ουρανοις ινα αποληται εν των μικρων τουτων [gnt]

The "bird" attracts "fish" and "sheep".

Those remaining "sheep" or "little ones" might glue themselves to the "birds" and be "lost" having separated themselves.

Some "fish" and/or "sheep" are promoted to "pigs" to influence others as leaders.

75. Attracting sheep and fish

Obviously, seeing "one" "sheep" leaving "mountain" or "definition" to be "great" and needing to attract others to be "great" is a concern. What should one do about this?

The idea of "joined" together as in "glued" together will be the topic of the next discourse at the start of the next chapter, 22 verses later.

But what if the "sheep" that has become a "bird" and attracted others leave "you" the "one" alone?

How does the group decide which "one" is right and which "one" is wrong? Check the next verses on conflict resolution to resolve both scenarios.

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76. Luke 15:3
Luke 15:3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying, [kjv]
ειπεν δε προς αυτους την παραβολην ταυτην λεγων [gnt]

Luke decides that this is a "parable".

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77. Luke 15:3
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KJV: And he spake this parable unto them, saying,
Greek: ειπεν δε προς αυτους την παραβολην ταυτην λεγων

78. Luke 15:4
Luke 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? [kjv]
τις ανθρωπος εξ υμων εχων εκατον προβατα και απολεσας εξ αυτων εν ου καταλειπει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα εν τη ερημω και πορευεται επι το απολωλος εως ευρη αυτο [gnt]

Luke decides that the "man" "loses" the "sheep" instead of the "sheep" "losing" the "man" by going "astray".

Luke uses the word for "leave" and not the word for "let go" or "forgive" as recorded by Matthew.

Matthew does not mention the "wilderness".

79. Luke 15:4
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KJV: What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Greek: τις ανθρωπος εξ υμων εχων εκατον προβατα και απολεσας εν εξ αυτων εν ου καταλειπει τα εννενηκονταεννεα ενενηκοντα εννεα εν τη ερημω και πορευεται επι το απολωλος εως ευρη αυτο

80. Luke 15:5
Luke 15:5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. [kjv]
και ευρων επιτιθησιν επι τους ωμους αυτου χαιρων [gnt]

Matthew says nothing about "shoulders" or bring the sheep back.

81. Luke 15:5
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KJV: And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
Greek: και ευρων επιτιθησιν επι τους ωμους εαυτου αυτου χαιρων

82. Luke 15:6
Luke 15:6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. [kjv]
και ελθων εις τον οικον συγκαλει τους φιλους και τους γειτονας λεγων αυτοις συγχαρητε μοι οτι ευρον το προβατον μου το απολωλος [gnt]

Matthew says nothing about "neighbors" or "friends" or even telling anyone about "finding" the "lost" "sheep".

83. Luke 15:6
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KJV: And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
Greek: και ελθων εις τον οικον συγκαλει τους φιλους και τους γειτονας λεγων αυτοις συγχαρητε μοι οτι ευρον το προβατον μου το απολωλος

84. Luke 15:7
Luke 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance. [kjv]
λεγω υμιν οτι ουτως χαρα εν τω ουρανω εσται επι ενι αμαρτωλω μετανοουντι η επι ενενηκοντα εννεα δικαιοις οιτινες ου χρειαν εχουσιν μετανοιας [gnt]

The ideas in this verse appear to have been back-patched into Matthew.

85. Luke 15:7
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KJV: I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
Greek: λεγω υμιν οτι ουτως χαρα εσται εν τω ουρανω εσται επι ενι αμαρτωλω μετανοουντι η επι εννενηκονταεννεα ενενηκοντα εννεα δικαιοις οιτινες ου χρειαν εχουσιν μετανοιας

86. Jeremiah 50:6
Jeremiah 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace. [kjv]
προβατα απολωλοτα εγενηθη ο λαος μου οι ποιμενες αυτων εξωσαν αυτους επι τα ορη απεπλανησαν αυτους εξ ορους επι βουνον ωχοντο επελαθοντο κοιτης αυτων [lxx]

In Matthew, which "shepherds" might have caused "sheep" to "go astray"? Did they use the "millstone" deception around the "neck"?

The Greek word for "hill", in modern times, has become the word for "mountain". It appears this was, in part, to avoid the same word meaning both "mountain" and "definition". The modern word, that used to mean "mountain" or "definition", today means mainly "definition".

87. Jeremiah 50:6
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KJV: My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.
Hebrew: צאן אבדות היה עמי רעיהם התעום הרים שובבים מהר אל גבעה הלכו שכחו רבצם׃
Greek: προβατα απολωλοτα εγενηθη ο λαος μου οι ποιμενες αυτων εξωσαν αυτους επι τα ορη απεπλανησαν αυτους εξ ορους επι βουνον ωχοντο επελαθοντο κοιτης αυτων

88. Jeremiah 50:7
Jeremiah 50:7 All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers. [kjv]
παντες οι ευρισκοντες αυτους καταναλισκον αυτους οι εχθροι αυτων ειπαν μη ανωμεν αυτους ανθ ων ημαρτον τω κυριω νομη δικαιοσυνης τω συναγαγοντι τους πατερας αυτων [lxx]


89. Jeremiah 50:7
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KJV: All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.
Hebrew: כל מוצאיהם אכלום וצריהם אמרו לא נאשם תחת אשר חטאו ליהוה נוה צדק ומקוה אבותיהם יהוה׃
Greek: παντες οι ευρισκοντες αυτους καταναλισκον αυτους οι εχθροι αυτων ειπαν μη ανωμεν αυτους ανθ ων ημαρτον τω κυριω νομη δικαιοσυνης τω συναγαγοντι τους πατερας αυτων

90. Jeremiah 50:8
Jeremiah 50:8 Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks. [kjv]
απαλλοτριωθητε εκ μεσου βαβυλωνος και απο γης χαλδαιων και εξελθατε και γενεσθε ωσπερ δρακοντες κατα προσωπον προβατων [lxx]


91. Jeremiah 50:8
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KJV: Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks.
Hebrew: נדו מתוך בבל ומארץ כשדים יצאו והיו כעתודים לפני צאן׃
Greek: απαλλοτριωθητε εκ μεσου βαβυλωνος και απο γης χαλδαιων και εξελθατε και γενεσθε ωσπερ δρακοντες κατα προσωπον προβατων

92. Matthew 18:12-14 Review
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]


18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. [kjv]

[how to deal with conflict within the body]

93. Matthew 18:15-17 Verses with Greek
Matthew 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. [kjv]
εαν δε αμαρτηση ο αδελφος σου υπαγε ελεγξον αυτον μεταξυ σου και αυτου μονου εαν σου ακουση εκερδησας τον αδελφον σου [gnt]
18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. [kjv]
εαν δε μη ακουση παραλαβε μετα σου ετι ενα η δυο ινα επι στοματος δυο μαρτυρων η τριων σταθη παν ρημα [gnt]
18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. [kjv]
εαν δε παρακουση αυτων ειπον τη εκκλησια εαν δε και της εκκλησιας παρακουση εστω σοι ωσπερ ο εθνικος και ο τελωνης [gnt]



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94. Conflict resolution paraphrase of Matthew 18:15-17

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Paraphrase 1: If you think than someone has done something wrong, go and work out the details with the other person. If it is worked out, the conflict has been resolved.

Paraphrase 2: If the conflict has not been resolved, take two or three along to document the arguments on both sides. If it is worked out, the conflict has been resolved.

Paraphrase 3: If the conflict has not been resolved, let the church know. If it is worked out, the conflict has been resolved. If it is not worked out, then separate from that person/group.

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