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A hundred ways to have it together
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1. A hundred ways to have it together

2. Meaning of sayings: Just saying
Code word model 1


3. Matthew 13:4-5,7-8 Seedy paths
Matthew 13:4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, … [kjv]
και εν τω σπειρειν αυτον α μεν επεσεν παρα την οδον … [gnt]
13:5 Some fell upon stony places, … [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι τα πετρωδη … [gnt]
13:7 And some fell among thorns; … [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι τας ακανθας … [gnt]
13:8 But other fell into good ground, … [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι την γην την καλην … [gnt]

Some "seeds" fell "beyond" the "way/path". Some fell onto "good" "ground". Is the "way/path" where the "good" "ground" lies? How well do "seeds" "grow" when planted on the "way/path"? Does the literal view need to make complete sense? Explain. This parable lends itself to many "seedy" jokes.

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4. Matthew 13:4-5,7-8 Seedy paths
Matthew 13:4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, … [kjv]
και εν τω σπειρειν αυτον α μεν επεσεν παρα την οδον … [gnt]
13:5 Some fell upon stony places, … [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι τα πετρωδη … [gnt]
13:7 And some fell among thorns; … [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι τας ακανθας … [gnt]
13:8 But other fell into good ground, … [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι την γην την καλην … [gnt]


All seeds fall. What places ore there that are not on the way/path? (literal view issues) Are these places mutually exclusive? Are they collectively exhaustive?

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5. Language evolution
The original PIE (Proto Indo-European) languages (Latin-based, Germanic-based, Slavic-based, Greek-based, etc.) had many inflections (verbs, nouns, adjectives, etc.) and a very flexible word order. The natural tendency has been for these languages to simplify over time with limited separation (e.g., Latin). How did these languages ever start out that complex?

Coincidence: Many pre-Greek words just happen to make play on words with existing Greek words.

Example: Place names such as Corinth.

[technology development and language development]

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6. Literal and code word views
Consider the parable of the ten virgins.

Literal words Play on words Code word meaning
Virgin Beyond the narrows (gates) believers
Lamp (torch) Sword  oneself
Vessel Marriage contract salvation
Oil Mercy Holy Spirit
Bridegroom Donkey light Jesus as God

Discuss: Is the "tree" of "life" in Genesis the "wood/timber" of "life"?

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7. Play on words
Maidens and beyond (the) rarrows Torches/lamps and swords Vessels and pledges/bethrothals
Olive oil and mercy The bridegroom and donkey light Levels 4

[science reality vs. digital information and code words]

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8. Literal and code word views
Denotational semantics Denotational semantics

Consider the idea of denotational semantics in programming language theory as a way to cleanly separate syntax (words) from semantics (meanings) such that, for example, one can support both a literal view and a play on words view and a code word meaning view. A literal view only corresponds to what is called an operational semantics.

A clean way to separate syntax and semantics in parsing is to use a bottom-up table-driven parser (e.g., LALR(1)). A top-down parsing of a left-recursive grammar has the problem of infinite regress. This is also found in getting tomorrow's bread today.

[teaching and mental models]

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9. Matthew 9:15 Bridegroom and fasting
Matthew 9:15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast. [kjv]
και ειπεν αυτοις ο ιησους μη δυνανται οι υιοι του νυμφωνος πενθειν εφ οσον μετ αυτων εστιν ο νυμφιος ελευσονται δε ημεραι οταν απαρθη απ αυτων ο νυμφιος και τοτε νηστευσουσιν [gnt]

Narrow and fast The bride chamber and donkey voices The bridegroom and donkey light



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10. Pulling up weeds
Consider defending a version of the Bible against all attacks. Can you relate it to the following? Their usual response: We'd have to see(d) it first.

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11. A hundred ways to have it together
Greek letter One hundred Hebrew letter
Jesus uses the Greek word for "hundred", as in the number 100, four times in Matthew. It is used 17 times in the GNT (Greek New Testament) and 193 times in the LXX (Septuagint).
The ancient Greek word "ἑκατόν""hundred" and is cognate with the English word "hundred" and the Latin word "centum""hundred" and many other PIE languages. The Roman symbol for "hundred" is the letter "C".

The English word "hectometer" is a hundred meters. A "centenarian" is someone who is a hundred (or more) years old.

12. Centum and Satem languages
Centum and Satem languages


13. Selected Roman military units
Unit Number Latin Greek
Legion 5000 legio λεγεών
Cohort 500 cohortis σπεῖρα
Century 80 centuria κεντύριον
Numbers are approximate as military unit size has historically varied (for the same unit in the same country) over time.

14. Strongs - hundred
*G1540 *17 ἑκατόν (hek-at-on') : of uncertain affinity; a hundred:--hundred.
Word usage per chapter Words: εκατον=17

The ancient Greek word "ἑκατόν""hundred" (cardinal). The KJV (King James Version) (and other) translation sometimes translates this as "hundredfold" even though the Greek word is just "hundred". The suffix of "-fold" is an assumption.

15. Usage - hundred
  • *G1540 *17 ἑκατόν (hek-at-on') : of uncertain affinity; a hundred:--hundred.
  •  Usage 
     All 
       εκατον *17  of 17
          Matthew 13:8 ... brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
          Matthew 13:23 ... and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
          Matthew 18:12 ... a man have an hundred sheep, and one ...
          Matthew 18:28 ... which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands ...
          Mark 4:8 ... sixty, and some an hundred.
          Mark 4:20 ... sixty, and some an hundred.
          Mark 6:40 And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.
          Luke 15:4 ... of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose ...
          Luke 16:6 And he said, An hundred measures of oil. And ...
          Luke 16:7 ... thou? And he said, An hundred measures of wheat. And ...
          John 19:39 ... and aloes, about an hundred pound weight.
          John 21:11 ... full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were ...
          Acts 1:15 ... together were about an hundred and twenty,)
          Revelation 7:4 ... of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand ...
          Revelation 14:1 ... and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, ...
          Revelation 14:3 ... that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, ...
          Revelation 21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, ...

16. Equivalence relations
A relation R on set A is an equivalence relation if the following properties hold.

Reflexive x and R Symmetric x y and R Transitive x y z and R
1. Reflexive:
xA : x R x
2. Symmetric:
x, yA : x R yy R x
3. Transitive:
x, y, zA : x R yy R zx R z

Equivalence classes reduce the amount of information that must be considered when working with properties of the set A. An equivalence class induces equivalence sets on a set, provided a suitable relation R can be defined. If a suitable relation R cannot be defined, there are only two conclusions. [gender, language - standardized/nurture, race - genetic/nature]

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17. A hundred play on words
Hundred and I have it Hundred and you have it

TPS 5
If everyone in a group or set of members says "(I) have" "it" and "(you) have" "it" then (if true) the relation on "it" is reflexive, symmetric and transitive (by induction) and thus forms an equivalence relation and induces an equivalence set (of the entire group).
Note that the reasoning only requires the "(you) have" "it" (imperative) within the group. Sayings: The in thing, out of it. Jazz saying: Be around or be square.

How well does this play on words fit for the times when Jesus uses the word for "hundred"? That is, does the "hundred" refer to a group that has some relation, called "it", that holds for the entire group (member by member)? Note: The resulting group (equivalence class) could be either "good" or not "good" (in some sense).

18. Matthew 18:12 Hundred sheep
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι  αφεις  αφησει τα  εννενηκονταεννεα  ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]
centum ovesnonaginta novem … [v]

The ancient Greek word "ἑκατόν""hundred" (cardinal number). The Latin word "centum""hundred".

Are these "sheep" all "together" as a group? It would appear so. Are these "sheep" together in a "good" or not "good" sense? If it is not clear, any decision tree modeling this idea is split into two worlds so each can be considered separately.

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19. Matthew 18:12
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι  αφεις  αφησει τα  εννενηκονταεννεα  ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]
centum ovesnonaginta novem … [v]

Business saying when the ship (business) starts to sink: The rats that can swim best jump ship first.

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20. Matthew 18:8-9 Cut out and pluck out
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Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. [kjv]


18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. [kjv]

If you make the wrong choice, you are not "better together". You have two ways to relate to others: "fellow believer" or "neighbor".



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21. Variations on a theme
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The mathematical idea of the equivalence relation "agrees that x is a sin" divides a group into two separate equivalence classes. Has this happened in recent times? What is "x" in the relation?

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22. Church conflict review
Consider two viewpoints of the same phenomena from Matthew 18:15-17.

 1   2   3   4   5   6   7   +   -   ▶ 

Discuss: Why is it important that no action be taken against the individual and why might such actions not have been included in the guidelines provided by Jesus?

Discuss: Do churches that have established a book of discipline, or something similar, violated what Jesus says in Matthew 18:15-17

Are we "better together"? Are we "better apart"? Jesus answers this question in the next verses. [Paul, Early Church Fathers, Catholic Church]

An issue with "division" without "action" is when the "gathering of believers" has stored up "treasure" on earth in terms of property, buildings, investments, etc. In any division, each side tends to want that "treasure".

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23. Matthew 18:28 Hundred sheep together
Matthew 18:28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. [kjv]
εξελθων δε ο δουλος εκεινος ευρεν ενα των συνδουλων αυτου ος ωφειλεν αυτω εκατον δηναρια και κρατησας αυτον επνιγεν λεγων αποδος  μοι ο  ει τι οφειλεις [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "ἑκατόν""hundred" and is cognate with the English word "hundred" and the Latin word "centum""hundred" and many other PIE languages.

This, by analogy and projection, is the "millstone" "deception/entrapment". This servant, is told that he owes a "hundred", as a group together, as if it is "through a lamb" but, in actuality, it is "through a bird" that is for the benefit of the unforgiving servant.

[better/bitter together]

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24. Matthew 18:28 Hundred sheep together
Matthew 18:28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. [kjv]
εξελθων δε ο δουλος εκεινος ευρεν ενα των συνδουλων αυτου ος ωφειλεν αυτω εκατον δηναρια και κρατησας αυτον επνιγεν λεγων αποδος  μοι ο  ει τι οφειλεις [gnt]


25. Matthew 13:8
Matthew 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι την γην την καλην και εδιδου καρπον ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]
terram bonamdabant fructumcentesimumsexagesimumtricesimum [v]

One hundred Sixty Thirty

The "-fold" comes from the Latin and not from the Greek. The Greek has a way to say "-fold" but that way is not used here (e.g., forgive seventy-fold).

To some, the forgiving "seventy-times" (plus) "seven" became "four hundred ninety".

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26. Genesis 4:24 Fold times
Genesis 4:24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold. [kjv]
שבעתיםשבעים ושבעה [he]
οτι επτακις εκδεδικηται εκ καιν εκ δε λαμεχ εβδομηκοντακις επτα [lxx]

Greek letter Hebrew letter Greek letter Hebrew letter

An interesting verse in Genesis uses the same "seventy" and "seven" and was translated the same in the LXX and Latin Vulgate as Matthew 18:22.

The exact meaning of the verse is unclear. We are here interested in the numbers.

The modern Greek word "επτά" (eh-PTA) ≈ "seven".

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27. Matthew 18:21-22 Times
Matthew 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? [kjv]
τοτε προσελθων  αυτω   ο πετρος ειπεν αυτω κυριε ποσακις αμαρτησει εις εμε ο αδελφος μου και αφησω αυτω εως επτακις [gnt]
18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. [kjv]
λεγει αυτω ο ιησους ου λεγω σοι εως επτακις  αλλ   αλλα εως εβδομηκοντακις επτα [gnt]

Multiplication
Peter uses the ancient Greek word "ποσάκις""how many times, how often" (adverbial). This is not the "times" operator for multiplication. Each time is one occurrence.
The ancient Greek word "πόσος""how much, how many" and similar concepts and is used to indicate a question.

Jesus provides an answer.

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28. Translation issues
Matthew 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. [kjv]
λεγει αυτω ο ιησους ου λεγω σοι εως επτακις  αλλ   αλλα εως εβδομηκοντακις επτα [gnt]

What is the "correct" translation? Here are some choices. The GNT clears states "εβδομηκοντακις επτα".

The modern Greek word "εβδομήντα" (eh-vtho-MEEN-ta) ≈ "seventy", similar to the ancient Greek word.

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29. Matthew 19:29 Much sand
Matthew 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. [kjv]
και πας  ος  οστις αφηκεν οικιας η αδελφους η αδελφας η πατερα η μητερα  η γυναικα   η τεκνα η αγρους ενεκεν του εμου ονοματος  μου εκατονταπλασιονα ληψεται  πολλαπλασιονα λημψεται και ζωην αιωνιον κληρονομησει [gnt]
aut uxoremcentuplum … [v]

Many times and much clay/sand

Note that this verse shows that there a way to say "many times" or "manifold times" in an abstract sense. Jesus says it. The Latin word "uxor""wife, spouse, consort".

One can do things in the "name" of Jesus. One can also deceive in the "name" of Jesus. One may be good. One is not good. It can be hard to determine the difference.

30. Matthew 13:8 One the one hand a hundred
Matthew 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι την γην την καλην και εδιδου καρπον ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]
terram bonamdabant fructumcentesimumsexagesimumtricesimum [v]

The ancient Greek word "ἑκατόν""hundred" (cardinal). The KJV (and other) translation sometimes translates this as "hundredfold" even though the Greek word is just "hundred".

The Latin word "centesimus""hundredth" and appears to be the origin of the English adding "fold" or "times" to the Greek "hundred". This "fold" or "times" was then used in other verses even when the Latin and Greek words have just the number "hundred".

Discuss: Is "seed" inherently "good" or not "good"? Can "seed" change their nature via nurture?

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31. Matthew 13:23 Gematria
Matthew 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. [kjv]
ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]

Greek gematriaGreek, like Hebrew, associated letters with numbers. The study of this is called gematria. The most famous instance of gematria is the 666 from Revelation 13. Any gematria meaning of 100, 60 and 30 is not clear but may indicate some interesting connections.
Keep in mind that the historical connection of this parable is that of the time of Jesus in Judea where the Romans ruled and had let Herod (and descendent's) have some local rule.

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32. Gematria of decreasing yields
SPQRThe symbol of Rome, the ruling power of the world at that time, in letters was SPQR (Senatus Populusque Romanus) (as an initialism) from the Latin phrase "senātus populusque rōmānus""The Roman Senate and People".

Gematria
value upper lower letter connection
100 Ρ ρ rho R for "Rome" (Latin and Greek)
60 Ξ ξ ski (composite letter KS)
Κ κ kappa K for "and" (Greek)
Σ σ sigma S for "Senate" (Latin)
30 Λ λ lambda L for "people" (Greek)
This is just one of many possible gematria connections.

What might the "K" and "S" mean (as code words) in Greek?

33. Reversed number order in Matthew and Mark
Matthew 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. [kjv]

Mark 4:8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred. [kjv]

Matthew: ... 100 ... 60 ... 30 ...
Mark: ... 30 ... 60 ... 100 ...

Mark repeats some of what Matthew writes but also changes and adds some things. Many details in Matthew are not in Mark (or Luke). Note the order of the numbers.

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34. Matthew 13:8 On many hands
Matthew 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι την γην την καλην και εδιδου καρπον ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]

That on the one hand and omen In this way and but then he
Does the play on words with Latin "omen" have any meaning here? With the modified meaning (i.e., declarative statements), does it matter that Mark reverses the order of the numbers?
  • ... gave fruit ...
  • ... on the one hand [omen] 100 fold ...
  • ... on the other hand [in this way] 60 fold ...
  • ... on another hand [in this way] 30 fold ...
Are the numbers a time sequence of events? Could these be happening at the same time (e.g., in different places or hands).
Does using the Greek meaning of "on the one hand" change usual meaning of the verse?

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35. Matthew 13:8 Translations
Matthew 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι την γην την καλην και εδιδου καρπον ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]

Note: The "fold" or "times" is not in the Greek and needs to be assumed. Even the Berean Literal Bible includes it.

NIV (New International Version): Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.

NLT (New Living Translation): Still other seeds fell on fertile soil, and they produced a crop that was thirty, sixty, and even a hundred times as much as had been planted!

Berean Literal Bible: And others fell upon the good soil and were giving fruit—some indeed a hundredfold, and some sixty, and some thirty.

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36. Matthew 13:8 Fruit
Matthew 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι την γην την καλην και εδιδου καρπον ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]

Beautiful and raca
The play on words is that of Greek "good" with "raca" (not doing what the council wants when it conflicts with what Jesus wants). This play on words is lost in the Latin word for "good" as "bonam""good" as in the English word "bona fide".
Note that Jesus says the "ground" is "good". He never says that the "fruit" is "good". Can we make the assumption that "good" "ground" always "gives" "good" "fruit"?

Nothing is said about not "good" "ground" giving "good", or even not ""good"", "fruit".

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37. False prophets in Matthew and Luke
Matthew 11:8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. [kjv]
αλλα τι  εξηλθετε  εξηλθατε ιδειν ανθρωπον εν μαλακοις  ιματιοις   ημφιεσμενον ιδου οι τα μαλακα φορουντες εν τοις οικοις των βασιλεων  εισιν   [gnt]

Luke 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. [kjv]
ουαι  υμιν   οταν καλως υμας ειπωσιν παντες οι ανθρωποι κατα  ταυτα  τα αυτα γαρ εποιουν τοις ψευδοπροφηταις οι πατερες αυτων [gnt]

What type of people are in king's houses? Many kings (and people) prefer those who tell them what they want to hear. Jesus and others refer to these speakers as false prophets.

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38. Apparel in Matthew and Luke
Matthew 11:8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. [kjv]
αλλα τι  εξηλθετε  εξηλθατε ιδειν ανθρωπον εν μαλακοις  ιματιοις   ημφιεσμενον ιδου οι τα μαλακα φορουντες εν τοις οικοις των βασιλεων  εισιν   [gnt]

Luke 7:25 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts. [kjv]
αλλα τι  εξεληλυθατε  εξηλθατε ιδειν ανθρωπον εν μαλακοις ιματιοις ημφιεσμενον ιδου οι εν ιματισμω ενδοξω και τρυφη υπαρχοντες εν τοις βασιλειοις εισιν [gnt]

As usual, Luke changes some of the words to express the literal meaning that was remembered but not any secondary meanings from carefully chosen words that Matthew records.

Some of the words used in Matthew appear to have been back-translated from Luke which obscures the double meanings of some words in the corresponding Matthew verse.

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39. Carrying a clothing tax in Matthew and Luke
Matthew 11:8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. [kjv]
αλλα τι  εξηλθετε  εξηλθατε ιδειν ανθρωπον εν μαλακοις  ιματιοις   ημφιεσμενον ιδου οι τα μαλακα φορουντες εν τοις οικοις των βασιλεων  εισιν   [gnt]
Luke 20:22 Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no? [kjv]
εξεστιν  ημιν  ημας καισαρι φορον δουναι η ου [gnt]

The "soft" has meanings that transcend clothing - a word added in some Greek manuscripts. The ancient Greek word "ἀμφινέμομαι""dwell around" and starts with "ambi" meaning "both". The word for "clothing" is inferred from the word "carry" which is almost the same word used for a "tax". The tense of the word used by Jesus makes the word for "clothing" a close match with "tax" or "tribute". Ideas: the "tax" load.

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40. Matthew 13:23 Distribute the fruit bearing
Matthew 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. [kjv]
ο δε επι  την γην   την καλην γην σπαρεις ουτος εστιν ο τον λογον ακουων και  συνιων  συνιεις ος δη καρποφορει και ποιει ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "καρποφορέω""carry fruit, fertile, bear fruit". Since it can be a play on words with three different ideas, let us distribute it into the three hands. Note: In math, 2 * (1 + 3 + 5) is distributed to 2*1 + 2*3 + 2*5 .

Making a play on words with the Greek word for bear is barely reasonable and might be called, "bear play" according to a grim law (Grimm's Law) of how the sounds "p" and "b" relate. Example: A funny bunny was punny.

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41. Matthew 13:23 Bear play
Matthew 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. [kjv]
ο δε επι  την γην   την καλην γην σπαρεις ουτος εστιν ο τον λογον ακουων και  συνιων  συνιεις ος δη καρποφορει και ποιει ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]

The modern Greek word "φόρεμα" (FO-reh-ma) ≈ "dress (clothing)" from the ancient Greek word "φόρημα""that which is carried, worn" from "φορέω""bear carry, wear". The ancient Greek word "φόρος""tribute, tax" from "φέρω""bring, bear, carry". Thus, there are several play on words here. The birds may use the "millstone deception" where the goat (or sheep) owes a 100 of "through a lamb" but, in reality, it is 100 of "through a bird"

42. Matthew 13:23 Word bearing
Matthew 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. [kjv]
ο δε επι  την γην   την καλην γην σπαρεις ουτος εστιν ο τον λογον ακουων και  συνιων  συνιεις ος δη καρποφορει και ποιει ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "καρπός""fruit" and is related to the English word "harvest". What is the difference between the following? The ancient Greek word "καρποφορέω""carry fruit, fertile, bear fruit". The modern Greek word "καρποφορέω" (kar-po-fo-REH-o) ≈ "bear fruit" which is a narrowed meaning from what was decided for the meaning of the word in the GNT.

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43. Word bearing
The ancient Greek word "δορυφόρος""carrying a (long) spear" which was shortened to "δόρῠ""(long) spear, lance" which comes from "δρῦς""tree, timber, oak" and is related to the English word "druid". The modern Greek word "δορυφόρος" (tho-ree-FO-ros) ≈ "satellite".

The ancient Greek word "κοντοφόρος""carrying a (short) spear" which was shortened to "κοντός""short, (short) spear". Having covered 100, the numbers 60 and 30 are now covered.

44. Matthew 12:11 Will have six if
Matthew 12:11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out? [kjv]
ο δε ειπεν αυτοις τις εσται εξ υμων ανθρωπος ος εξει προβατον εν και εαν εμπεση τουτο τοις σαββασιν εις βοθυνον ουχι κρατησει αυτο και εγερει [gnt]

Will have and six if/whether
The ancient Greek word "εξει""will have" (used one time by Jesus in Matthew) from "ἔχω""have".

How might this "sheep" compare with the "one" "sheep" that left the group (hundred) "sheep"?
The "six" and "one" sum to "seven".

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45. Luke 11:5 Will have
Luke 11:5 And he said unto them, Which of you shall have a friend, and shall go unto him at midnight, and say unto him, Friend, lend me three loaves; [kjv]
και ειπεν προς αυτους τις εξ υμων εξει φιλον και πορευσεται προς αυτον μεσονυκτιου και ειπη αυτω φιλε χρησον μοι τρεις αρτους [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "εξει""will have" (used one time by Jesus in Matthew) from "ἔχω""have".

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46. John 8:12 Light of the world
The previous part in John 8 was about the woman caught in adultery. The next part in John 8 is the reaction to Jesus stating that he is the "light of the world".
John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. [kjv]
παλιν ουν  ο ιησους   αυτοις ελαλησεν ο ο ιησους λεγων εγω ειμι το φως του κοσμου ο ακολουθων  εμοι   μοι ου μη  περιπατησει   περιπατηση εν τη σκοτια αλλ εξει το φως της ζωης [gnt]

Shades of gray?The contrast is between light and darkness. Shades of gray can appear different depending on context.
The ancient Greek word "εξει""will have" (used one time by Jesus in Matthew) from "ἔχω""have".

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47. Compare you to yourself
According to Paul, instead of comparing our work to others, one should compare one's work to one's own work.

Galatians 6:4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. [kjv]
το δε εργον εαυτου δοκιμαζετω εκαστος και τοτε εις εαυτον μονον το καυχημα εξει και ουκ εις τον ετερον [gnt]

The word for "prove" here is that of "testing" and not a mathematical "proof".

The ancient Greek word "εξει""will have" (used one time by Jesus in Matthew) from "ἔχω""have".

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48. Strongs - sixty
*G1835 *8 ἑξήκοντα (hex-ay'-kon-tah) : the tenth multiple of G1803; sixty:--sixty(-fold), threescore.
Word usage per chapter Words: εξηκοντα=8

Greek letter Sixty Hebrew letter
The Latin word "sexaginta""sixty".
The number 60 was used in Babylon (60 minutes in an hour, etc.), in part because of the number of ways it could be evenly divided: 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 12 15 20 30 60

49. Usage - sixty
  • *G1835 *8 ἑξήκοντα (hex-ay'-kon-tah) : the tenth multiple of G1803; sixty:--sixty(-fold), threescore.
  •  Usage 
     All 
      εξηκοντα *8
          Matthew 13:8 ... some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
          Matthew 13:23 ... some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
          Mark 4:8 ... thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
          Mark 4:20 ... some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.
          Luke 24:13 ... was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
          1 Timothy 5:9 ... a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife ...
          Revelation 11:3 ... they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
          Revelation 12:6 ... there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

50. Matthew 13:8 Sixty will have short spears
Matthew 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι την γην την καλην και εδιδου καρπον ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]

Sixty and will have short (spears)

The ancient Greek word "κοντοφόρος""carrying a (short) spear" which was shortened to"κοντός""short, (short) spear".

Note: The Roman "sword" was a "short sword" used primarily for stabbing and not slashing. It was effectively a "short spear". This is the group that "carries" or "bears" "fruit".

51. Strongs - thirty
*G5144 *11 τριάκοντα (tree-ak'-on-tah) : the decade of G5140; thirty:--thirty.
Word usage per chapter Words: τριακοντα=11

Greek letter Thirty Hebrew letter
The Latin word "triginta""thirty".
Jesus tends not use the word for "three" in a good sense. The idea and word of the trinity originated a few hundred years later.

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52. Usage - thirty
  • *G5144 *11 τριάκοντα (tree-ak'-on-tah) : the decade of G5140; thirty:--thirty.
  •  Usage 
     All 
      τριακοντα *11
          Matthew 13:8 ... some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
          Matthew 13:23 ... some sixty, some thirty.
          Matthew 26:15 ... they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
          Matthew 27:3 ... he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
          Matthew 27:9 ... And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, ...
          Mark 4:8 ... and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, ...
          Mark 4:20 ... it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and ...
          Luke 3:23 ... began to be about thirty years of age, being (as ...
          John 5:5 ... there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
          John 6:19 ... about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus ...
          Galatians 3:17 ... was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot ...

53. Matthew 13:8 Thirty in the tree without short spears
Matthew 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. [kjv]
αλλα δε επεσεν επι την γην την καλην και εδιδου καρπον ο μεν εκατον ο δε εξηκοντα ο δε τριακοντα [gnt]

Thirty and tree not short (spears)

The ancient Greek word "δορυφόρος""carrying a (long) spear" which was shortened to "δόρῠ""(long) spear, lance" which comes from "δρῦς""tree, timber, oak" and is related to the English word "druid". The modern Greek word "δορυφόρος" (tho-ree-FO-ros) ≈ "satellite". This is the group that "wears" the "fruit".

54. Groupings
One hundred Hundred and you have it
Sixty Sixty and will have short (spears)
Thirty Thirty and tree not short (spears)
Wayside seeds: (off the path/way) Good ground seeds: (in the path/way)
[marriage feast parable, unforgiving servant]

55. Ten pin
TenPin 6
All seeds fall. What places ore there that are not on the way/path? (literal view issues)
Where might each of the "seed" groupings fit into the Ten Pin model?

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