- *G276 *2 ἀμετάθετος (am-et-ath'-et-os) : from G1 (as a negative particle) and a derivative of G3346; unchangeable, or (neuter as abstract) unchangeability:--immutable(-ility).
- αμεταθετον
- Hebrews 6:17 ... to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, ...
- αμεταθετων
- Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which ...
28. Hebrews 6:17 Unchangeable
Hebrews 6:17 Where in God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: [kjv]
εν ω περισσοτερον βουλομενος ο θεος επιδειξαι τοις κληρονομοις της επαγγελιας το αμεταθετον της βουλης αυτου εμεσιτευσεν ορκω [gnt]
If God cannot
"lie", then is there a need to "
confirm" something with an "
oath"? Can God just "
say" it?
What is the "
oath"? The next verse does not appear to answer this.
Paul is a candidate for who wrote Hebrews, but there no general agreement on this.
Eusebius (repeating others) claims that Paul left his name off as Paul was a vessel to the gentiles and the Hebrews would ignore anything coming from him.
29. Hebrews 6:17
KJV: Where in God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:
Greek: εν ω περισσοτερον βουλομενος ο θεος επιδειξαι τοις κληρονομοις της επαγγελιας το αμεταθετον της βουλης αυτου εμεσιτευσεν ορκω
30. Hebrews 6:18 Impossible to lie
Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: [kjv]
ινα δια δυο πραγματων αμεταθετων εν οις αδυνατον ψευσασθαι θεον ισχυραν παρακλησιν εχωμεν οι καταφυγοντες κρατησαι της προκειμενης ελπιδος [gnt]
What are the "
two"
"immutable" "things"?
The Greek word translated as
"impossible" is used by Aristotle as that of
"potentially possible" as in a
"potentiality". The Greek word for
"things" is most often used to refer to
physical or
concrete "things" and
not abstract "things". A
"lie" is an
abstract "thing".
The translation that it is
"impossible" for God to
"lie" is a possible basis for claiming
logical inerrancy of the Bible.
31. Hebrews 6:18
KJV: That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
Greek: ινα δια δυο πραγματων αμεταθετων εν οις αδυνατον ψευσασθαι θεον ισχυραν παρακλησιν εχωμεν οι καταφυγοντες κρατησαι της προκειμενης ελπιδος
32. 1 John 2:21 True and false
1 John 2:21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. [kjv]
ουκ εγραψα υμιν οτι ουκ οιδατε την αληθειαν αλλ οτι οιδατε αυτην και οτι παν ψευδος εκ της αληθειας ουκ εστιν [gnt]
The Greek word translated as
"no" is the ancient Greek word
"πᾶν" ≈ "everything, anything" as in the Greek god
"Pan" an appears in English words such as "
pan-American", "
pandemic", "
panorama", etc.
The Greek word for
"all" requires a context to determine the domain of application.
This statement by John appears to be a
tautology or, literally, "
same" "
logic" or "
same" "
reasoning". That is, by definition, a
lie is that which is
not of the
truth (excluded middle).
33. 1 John 2:21
KJV: I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
Greek: ουκ εγραψα υμιν οτι ουκ οιδατε την αληθειαν αλλ οτι οιδατε αυτην και οτι παν ψευδος εκ της αληθειας ουκ εστιν
34. Revelation 1:19 After these things
Revelation 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; [kjv]
γραψον ουν α ειδες και α εισιν και α μελλει γινεσθαι μετα ταυτα [gnt]
The ancient Greek phrase
"μετά ταύτα" ≈ "after these things" appears
111 times in the
GNT and
LXX. John uses the phrase
10 times in Revelation.
The English word
"tautology" comes from Latin
"tautologia" ≈ "tautology" which comes from the ancient Greek word
"ταὐτολογῐ́ᾱ" ≈ "tautology" and which means, literally, "
same/identical reasoning/logic". This word was first applied to (propositional) logic by
Ludwig Wittgenstein in 1921, being borrowed from rhetoric where an idea is repeated as in using the "
same reasoning".
The
modern Greek word
"ταυτολογία" (tav-to-lo-Y-a) ≈ "tautology",
35. 1 John 2:22-23
John continues on the subject of "
truth" and that of a
"lie".
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. [kjv]
τις εστιν ο ψευστης ει μη ο αρνουμενος οτι ιησους ουκ εστιν ο χριστος ουτος εστιν ο αντιχριστος ο αρνουμενος τον πατερα και τον υιον [gnt]
2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. [kjv]
πας ο αρνουμενος τον υιον ουδε τον πατερα εχει ο ομολογων τον υιον και τον πατερα εχει [gnt]
The Greek word translated as "
anti" is that of "
in place of". An "
antichrist" sets them-self up "
in place of" "
Christ".
The Greek word for
"deny" is a play on words with
"bird".
36. Strongs - deny
*G720 *33 ἀρνέομαι (ar-neh'-om-ahee) : perhaps from G1 (as a negative particle) and the middle voice of G4483; to contradict, i.e. disavow, reject, abnegate:--deny, refuse.
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Words: αρνεισθαι αρνησαμενοι αρνησαμενος αρνησασθαι αρνησασθω αρνησεται αρνηση αρνησηται=1 αρνησομαι=1 αρνησομεθα αρνουμενοι=2 αρνουμενος=3 αρνουμενων αρνουνται ηρνειτο ηρνημενοι ηρνησαντο ηρνησασθε=2 ηρνησατο=8 ηρνησω=2 ηρνηται
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The ancient Greek word
"ἀρνέομαι" ≈ "deny, disown, refuse, decline". Each of the exact words used by Jesus for "
deny" are used only
one time in the
GNT. Perhaps a play on words might be intended.
The ancient Greek word
"ὄρνεον" ≈ "bird" as in a generic bird and is the source of the Old English word
"earn" ≈ "eagle" and the English word
"ornithology" as the "
study" of
"birds" (coined in the 1600's).
37. Matthew 10:33 Deny as a bird
Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. [kjv]
οστις δε δ αν αρνησηται με εμπροσθεν των ανθρωπων αρνησομαι καγω αυτον εμπροσθεν του πατρος μου του εν τοις ουρανοις [gnt]
Use the noun for
"bird" as a verb. What's your "
ask"? [tennising]
Greek: αρνησηται (say "ar-NEE-see-ta"), verb "deny".
Greek: ορνησηται (say "or-NEE-see-ta"), verb "bird".
Paraphrase (with play on words):
Whoever [bones, hostile] denies [birds] me before men, I will deny [bird] him before my Father in heaven.
This play on word usage is
not the same as the modern "
flip" the
"bird" action, though the word "
flip" is similar in spirit to the Greek word for "
worthy" as in "
counter-balance" and the word translated as "
variance" (in two verses).
38. 1 John 2:22
KJV: Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Greek: τις εστιν ο ψευστης ει μη ο αρνουμενος οτι ιησους ουκ εστιν ο χριστος ουτος εστιν ο αντιχριστος ο αρνουμενος τον πατερα και τον υιον
39. 1 John 2:23
KJV: Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Greek: πας ο αρνουμενος τον υιον ουδε τον πατερα εχει ο ομολογων τον υιον και τον πατερα εχει
40. West Point Motto and Honor Code
The United States Military Academy at West Point has a motto of "
Duty, honor, country".
"
Make us choose the harder right instead of the easier wrong and never to be content with a half truth when the whole can be won.". From the Cadet Prayer, United States Military Academy, West Point.
The West Point honor code that states that "
A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal or tolerate those who do". If found in violation of this code, the punishment is expulsion from the Academy.
41. Revelation 5:5 Lies
Revelation 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. [kjv]
και εις εκ των πρεσβυτερων λεγει μοι μη κλαιε ιδου ενικησεν ο λεων ο εκ της φυλης ιουδα η ριζα δαυιδ ανοιξαι το βιβλιον και τας επτα σφραγιδας αυτου [gnt]
Would a musician play the lyre?
What about a lying baby?
Would Jesus be a lion to you?
42. Revelation 5:5
KJV: And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Greek: και εις εκ των πρεσβυτερων λεγει μοι μη κλαιε ιδου ενικησεν ο λεων ο ων εκ της φυλης ιουδα η ριζα δαβιδ δαυιδ ανοιξαι το βιβλιον και λυσαι τας επτα σφραγιδας αυτου
43. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 God-breathed writings
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [kjv]
3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. [kjv]
As an informal mathematical proof resulting in a
complete or
even result, consider the following paraphrase.
Paraphrase: For all writings such that that writing is God-breathed, that writing is helpful for ... such that the man of God is complete/even, ready to accomplish any good work.
One common thread in the laundry list of
sins of the last days appears to be that of a breakdown in relationships within the body of believers.
44. 2 Timothy 3:16 All inspired scripture: security analysis
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [kjv]
πασα γραφη θεοπνευστος και ωφελιμος προς διδασκαλιαν προς ελεγμον προς επανορθωσιν προς παιδειαν την εν δικαιοσυνη [gnt]
All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is helpful (to some extent) ...
All scripture that is God-breathed is helpful (to some extent) ...
Which translation is more open to deception, wandering off-track, improper inferences, etc.? A security analysis looks at how an assumed meaning can be exploited by some for their own advantage.
The
KJV and Latin contain the "
and". However, the Greek word for "
and" is
not present in some early Greek manuscripts which changes the meaning of the words.
New Testament text and translation commentary. p. 676. Phillip W. Comfort. Tyndale House Publishers. 2008. In such cases, one should investigate the implications for both possibilities and make decisions accordingly.
45. Facts and truth
Note that when a group deception is based on
empty opinion and/or
invalid logic, and
not logic nor
reality, using
logic or
reality (e.g.,
facts) will tend to result in
no change to the
opinion of the group.
1. There is one concrete reality truth. There are many perceptions of reality using logic and/or opinion.
2. One can deceive with invalid logic.
3. One can deceive with empty opinion.
When Paul, as he often does, points this out, questionable translations carefully obscure what he is saying.
[Bible is not a logic system]
46. Not truth
Here we are interested in "
false" as being "
not true" as in "
not real" or "
not in reality".
In two-valued logic, every statement is "
true" or "
false" and cannot be "
true" and "
false" at the same time (excluded middle).
Lies are statements that, in reality, are
perceived as not "
true" (in reality). That is, the
perception of reality is
distorted.
Invalid or deceptive logic or reasoning.
Personal opinion or glory.
There are many interesting quotes about
"lies".
47. Lies and truth
A lie told often enough becomes the truth. Vladimir Lenin (Russian revolutionary and politician)
48. Big lies
The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell a big one. Adolf Hitler (German dictator)
49. Consistency
What convinces masses are not facts, and not even invented facts, but only the consistency of the system of which they are presumably part. Hanna Arendt (Political philosopher)
Arendt, H. (1951).
The origins of totalitarianism. 1968 printing. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World, Inc., p. 49.
50. Believing lies
People do not believe lies because they have to, but because they want to. Malcolm Muggeridge (British broadcaster)
51. Lies
There are a terrible lot of lies going about the world, and the worst of it is that half of them are true. Winston Churchill (British statesman)
How might one determine what is true and what is not true?
52. Mark Twain: Lies and statistics
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics. From the autobiography of Mark Twain, although he appears to have appropriated it from another source.
For more information, see
http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/maths/histstat/lies.htm (as of 1982).
Statistics can often be used to show things that are not true. One must carefully look at any statistical claim (and assumptions).
Common saying:
Figures don't lie. Liars figure.
53. John 1:1,14 In the beginning
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [kjv]
1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. [kjv]
In the beginning was the Lie and the Lie was made news and dwelt among us, graceless and false. Malcolm Muggeridge (British broadcaster)
54. Judea Pearl
Ladder of
causation.
top: thinking, imagining (why, counter-factual reasoning)
middle: doing, intervening (how)
bottom: seeing/observing, association (what)
In developing models and languages for causation, Judea Pearl makes the point (reference needed) that in order to solve a problem (as computer scientists do), one needs both a model of the (general or specific) problem being solved and a language in which to talk about the problem and model. If there is no suitable language, one needs to create such a language. This is what Judea does in addressing issues in causation.
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55. Lies and falsehoods
To address the idea of lies and falsehoods, including references to God in the Bible, one needs a model and language for lies and falsehoods, etc.
OOP (Object Oriented Programming) terminology of classes, objects, messages, properties, methods, etc.
Additional descriptions for the relevant parts.
Model to depict the problem.
[philosopher diversions, start with cases without exceptions, Aristotle]
56. Simplicity
Einstein: Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler.
If one cannot make a simplified system work, how can one expect the system to work if adding more and more complexity.
[philosophers, theologians]
57. Book and reader
Consider a
"book" as a
message. This
message ultimately came from some intelligent entity which is ignored for now.
The
"reader" reads the
"book". The
"reader" has a
perception of some
reality as obtained from the
message of the
"book".
58. Video
A
"video" as a
message is
created on the basis of the
"book".
The "video" adds or inserts new ideas that are not in the "book".
The "video" removes or deletes ideas that are in the "book".

A
change is considered as a
delete and then an
insert. One way to
change a light bulb is to
remove the
old light bulb and
insert the
new light bulb. Isn't that a bright idea! Thanks a watt!
The idea of
meaning is not always precise so the meaning of the "
message" of both the
"book" and the
"video" may be difficult to fully ascertain.
59. Video and viewer
A
"viewer" has
perceptions of the
"video". The
"viewer" may not have read the
message of the
"book".
60. Reader and video
The
"reader" may now view the
message of the
"video".
61. Cognitive dissonance
Any
discrepancy or
cognitive dissonance as
perceived between the
message of the
"book" and the message of the
"video" may need to be resolved. Some people do
not perceive differences or do not concern themselves with those differences.
One alternative is to claim that the message of the
"book" is "
true" and thus, the
message of the
"video" is a "
lie".
Important questions: Does it matter? If so, how does it matter? To whom does it matter?
62. Books
The same discrepancy could be detected for two messages as
"book 1" and
"book 2".
Let "book1" be the KJV.
Let "book2" be the GNT.
63. Rational thought
The analysis tends to assume
rational thought and decisions. There is a possibility that, without consideration, one message, say
"book 2", is always taken to be a "
lie" even without something with which to compare it.
This is a form of
AIDS (Auto Immune Deficiency Syndrome) that might be called
TIDS (Truth Immune Deficiency Syndrome), Some might call it a form of Truth Derangement Syndrome. What might be a good acronym for this idea?
64. Build
65. Strongs - wander
*G4106 *10 πλάνη (plan'-ay) : feminine of G4108 (as abstractly); objectively, fraudulence; subjectively, a straying from orthodoxy or piety:--deceit, to deceive, delusion, error.
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Words: πλανη=4 πλανης=6
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The ancient Greek word
"πλανάω" ≈ "wander about" and is the source of the English word
"planet" as a
"wandering" "
star".
66. Usage - wander
- *G4106 *10 πλάνη (plan'-ay) : feminine of G4108 (as abstractly); objectively, fraudulence; subjectively, a straying from orthodoxy or piety:--deceit, to deceive, delusion, error.
- πλανης *6
- Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural ...
- Ephesians 4:14 ... whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
- 1 Thessalonians 2:3 ... exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, ...
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11 ... shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
- James 5:20 ... he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save ...
- 1 John 4:6 ... of truth, and the spirit of error.
- πλανη *4
- Matthew 27:64 ... the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
- 2 Peter 2:18 ... escaped from them who live in error.
- 2 Peter 3:17 ... lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from ...
- Jude 1:11 ... of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and ...
67. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 Strong delusions
68. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 Strong delusion
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [kjv]
και δια τουτο πεμπει αυτοις ο θεος ενεργειαν πλανης εις το πιστευσαι αυτους τω ψευδει [gnt]
The Greek for
"strong" is, from Aristotle,
"actuality" so that the
"strong" "delusion" is an
"actual" "wandering/deviation/error" that is "
sent"
"into" the faith/belief. The
KJV translates
"into" as
"that".

The ancient Greek word
"πλανάω" ≈ "wander about" and is the source of the English word
"planet" as a
"wandering" "
star". The ancient Greek word
"ψευδής" ≈ "lying, false, untrue" and is the source of the English word
"pseudo". The
"strong" "delusion" appears to be a "
perception".
Discussion question: There have been many speculations about this
"lie". What are some candidates for this
"lie"? What ideas that are "
false" might be put
"into" or
"against" the faith?
69. 2 Thessalonians 2:11
KJV: And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Greek: και δια τουτο πεμψει πεμπει αυτοις ο θεος ενεργειαν πλανης εις το πιστευσαι αυτους τω ψευδει
Latin: ideo mittit illis Deus operationem erroris ut credant mendacio
70. The lie: evolution
Ham, K. (1987).
The lie: evolution. El Cajon, CA: Master Books.
Ken Ham, founder of
Answers in Genesis, promotes as a candidate for "
the" "
lie",
not "
a lie", in 2 Thessalonians 2:11, the belief in the theory of evolution.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [kjv]
και δια τουτο πεμπει αυτοις ο θεος ενεργειαν πλανης εις το πιστευσαι αυτους τω ψευδει [gnt]
71. Coded information note
Note that, using science, one cannot prove the Bible true nor false. However, attempting to get coded information from chance shows, with probability approaching 1.0, that there must be a creator outside of space and time (as we know it) and that, with probability approaching 0.0, the theory of evolution cannot be true (with respect to coded information arising by chance).
Note also that proving evolution false does not make the Bible true. Nor does proving a creator outside of space and time. Proving the Bible true (with probability approaching 1.0) requires additional logic and reasoning.
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72. Hebrews 9:8 Propaganda
Hebrews 9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: [kjv]
τουτο δηλουντος του πνευματος του αγιου μηπω πεφανερωσθαι την των αγιων οδον ετι της πρωτης σκηνης εχουσης στασιν [gnt]
… propalatam … [v]
The modern negative sense of
"propaganda" originates from World War I. One example is the "
I want you for the U.S. Army" poster from World War I.
In some cases, the word
"propaganda" is used to convey ideas that are not true (in reality). The English word
"propaganda" is from the Latin word
"propago" ≈ "propagate, extend, enlarge" and is related to the English word "
propel" from the Latin word
"propello" ≈ "forward" from the Latin word
"pello" ≈ "push, move" and the source of the English word
"propeller". Think of
"pushing an agenda".
73. Hebrews 9:8
KJV: The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
Greek: τουτο δηλουντος του πνευματος του αγιου μηπω πεφανερωσθαι την των αγιων οδον ετι της πρωτης σκηνης εχουσης στασιν
Latin: hoc significante Spiritu Sancto nondum propalatam esse sanctorum viam adhuc priore tabernaculo habente statum
74. Propaganda
Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise. Adolf Hitler (German dictator)
75. Stupid people
All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those towards whom it is directed will understand it. Therefore, the intellectual level of the propaganda must be lower the larger the number of people who are to be influenced by it. Adolf Hitler (German dictator)
76. Propaganda
Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. Hanna Arendt (Political philosopher)
Arendt, H. (1951).
The origins of totalitarianism. 1968 printing. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World, Inc., p. 80.
77. Atheism
Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism. Vladimir Lenin (Russian revolutionary and politician)
78. Deception
Does a lie deceive?
Can you deceive yourself?
In that sense, have you lied to yourself?
Does Jesus warn us about this?
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[body and soul, birds]
79. Choses issues
Here are some
chosen truth issues under development having to do with the TV
historical fiction and drama series "
The Chosen".
Various ideas are combined together in a somewhat plausible but not Biblically stated manner.
The starting point appears to be what English translations say. These English translations are based on the Latin which is based on the Greek. However, the Latin often does not match the Greek so that one can be misled by the
whisper chain of translations.
80. Historical fiction
In what ways can historical fiction be a problem? Discuss the following in terms of
historical fiction.
TV series "The Chosen".
Book (and movie) the Da Vinci Code.
The movie The Ten Commandments (Charlton Heston, etc.)
Some books of the Bible are considered by
some, to some extent, historical fiction. Examples: Ruth, Esther. Note: There are always
some who consider most, if not all, of the Bible to be historical fiction.
81. Discussion
Discuss the following. Assume the person stated, in some manner, wrote the book associated with him.
Did Luke understand what Jesus said and meant when he wrote Luke?
Did Mark understand what Jesus said and meant when he wrote Mark?
Did Matthew understand what Jesus said and meant when he wrote Matthew?
Did John understand what Jesus said when he wrote John?
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82. Ideas
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