Send Close Add comments: (status displays here)
Got it!  This site "creationpie.org" uses cookies. You consent to this by clicking on "Got it!" or by continuing to use this website.  Note: This appears on each machine/browser from which this site is accessed.
The idea of one God deception
by RS  admin@creationpie.org : 1024 x 640


1. The idea of one God deception
This page is being developed.

2. Proverbs 1:7 Fear of the Lord
Verse routeProverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. [kjv]
Verse routeαρχη σοφιας φοβος θεου συνεσις δε αγαθη πασι τοις ποιουσιν αυτην ευσεβεια δε εις θεον αρχη αισθησεως σοφιαν δε και παιδειαν ασεβεις εξουθενησουσιν [lxx]
Verse routeThe fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; and there is good understanding to all that practise it: and piety towards God is the beginning of discernment; but the ungodly will set at nothing wisdom and instruction. [bs3]

Information sign More: Proverbs 1:1-33 knowledge and understanding

3. The idea of one God deception
Some pastors (and others) will use the deception that Abraham or Moses came up with the idea of one God. This deceptions is used to tacitly (by omitting certain things) raise doubt about the truth and authenticity of the Bible.

Sometimes the deception will be worded in a way that provides plausible deniability so that, if they are questioned about the deception they can claim the excuse that they just left that part out.

This deception is one way in which faith in the Bible can be shaken. Here some of the "rest of the story" is provided that is omitted when the deception is used.

This deception reminds one of the serpent Satan's line to Eve of "Did God really say?".

4. Genesis 3:1 The serpent in the garden
Was the serpent in the garden "wise" in the modern English sense?

Verse routeGenesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? [kjv]
Verse routeο δε οφις ην φρονιμωτατος παντων των θηριων των επι της γης ων εποιησεν κυριος ο θεος και ειπεν ο οφις τη γυναικι τι οτι ειπεν ο θεος ου μη φαγητε απο παντος ξυλου του εν τω παραδεισω [lxx]

Was the serpent "opportunistic"?

A person is defined to be "opportunistic" if he or she is ready to put internalized theory (or attitude) into externalized practice as actions (or evidenced behavior).

Information sign More: A wise opportunity to be prudent

5. Sermons
In times past, pastors would greet everyone in the congregation after a sermon, shaking hands, etc. I remember hearing some people questioning the pastor on what was said. In those times, pastors had to be careful about what they said.

Today, congregations in many churches are smaller as pastors try to "fill the pews". Despite fewer people, many pastors find excuses to avoid accountability. Some just disappear after the sermon. Some have "more important" things to do than be accountable the their flock.

6. The deception starts - base case
History 1
The deception starts with the claim (as a historical fact) that Abraham (in the Ur of Chaldea), or Moses (with the Egyptian god ideas) came up with the novel idea that there is one god who is then called the God.
The claim, without evidence, is that, at that time, different people had different ideas of the gods. Some even claim that reading and writing did not yet exist, despite the huge amount of archaeological evidence to the contrary.

The deception uses the selective evidence fallacy of providing an incomplete picture of the situation.

7. Different groups out - step case
History 2
Today, there are many groups descending from the original groups all over the world.

8. Group houses
History 3
Each group has their house, so to speak, of ideas on religion, etc. These houses are built on sand or the "human infrastructure" of man's rules, man's opinions, etc.

These groups (people in these groups) get upset with the idea that Jesus is the one and only way to the Father.
Verse routeJohn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [kjv]
Verse routeλεγει αυτω ιησους εγω ειμι η οδος και η αληθεια και η ζωη ουδεις ερχεται προς τον πατερα ει μη δι εμου [gnt]

Do you see the selective evidence being used in the reasoning?

9. John 14:6 Way truth and life
Verse routeJohn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [kjv]
Verse routeλεγει αυτω ιησους εγω ειμι η οδος και η αληθεια και η ζωη ουδεις ερχεται προς τον πατερα ει μη δι εμου [gnt]
Verse routeviaveritasvita … [v]

Levels of truth Way Truth Life
Jesus is the "way", "truth" and "life".
In Latin, these three words start with "v": "via", "veritas" and "vita". The Greek and Hebrew words for "truth" have to do with "reality" and not "logic" or "opinion". Thus, Jesus is the "way" (opinion as in glory), the "truth" (reality as in science) and the "life" (logic as in information).

Information sign More: Greek truth as reality
Information sign More: Hebrew truth as reality
Information sign More: Truth types and 1 John

10. John 14:6

   John 14:6 
 All 
KJV: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Greek: λεγει αυτω ο ιησους εγω ειμι η οδος και η αληθεια και η ζωη ουδεις ερχεται προς τον πατερα ει μη δι εμου
Latin: dicit ei Iesus ego sum via et veritas et vita nemo venit ad Patrem nisi per me

11. Backtrack into history
History 4
The deception omits the history before Abraham and/or Moses.
If one backtracks in history, one arrives at the flood of Noah and his descendent's that repopulated the earth. Those descendent's did not take long to forget God (again).

Noah passed the historical record of the one true God down through selected descendent's such as Abraham and Moses (who wrote down that history). God then called some of those descendent's in special ways.

Information sign More: 2 Peter 2:1-22 Déjà vu all over again

12. Backtrack to the beginning
History 5
The coded information argument (proof) requires a creator God.
The coded information argument (outside of time and space) is not an argument of science (inside time and space).
Die sample spaceIf you do not believe in a creator God, you believe that everything happens by chance.

Movie quote from the Matrix: Choice is an illusion, created between those with power, and those without. (reminds one of the "birds").

Information sign More: Genesis 1: A gaping gap between chasm and chaos
Information sign More: Genesis 5: A hidden plan of inherited salvation
Information sign More: Genesis 6:1-12 The time before the flood

13. Matrix: Choice is an illusion
Movie quote from the Matrix: Choice is an illusion, created between those with power, and those without. This makes one think of the "birds" as used by Jesus.

14. Genesis 1: A gaping gap between chasm and chaos
Verse routeGenesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. [kjv]
Verse route1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. [kjv]

Puzzle 2 Arrow 5 Puzzle

Have you ever heard a pastor say or pray "to the god who brought order to chaos"? Whose god are they talking about? The gods bringing order to "chaos" is part of Greek mythology. Such a god is in the universe instead of outside of time and space.

The description in Genesis of the God of the Bible is very different. That God had to create matter, time and space and then, from the starting point created, organize what was created.

And this is different than the technical term "chaos theory" as systems with a sensitive dependency on initial conditions. And this is not the same as "chaos" as a general term for disorder as in "clutter" in our lives.

Information sign More: Genesis 1: A gaping gap between chasm and chaos

15. Genesis 5: A hidden plan of inherited salvation
Luke covers the genealogy of Adam to Noah (in reverse order, also in Genesis 5).

16. Hebrew
The meaning of the names from Adam to Noah in the original Hebrew appear to make a statement about the Gospel plan of salvation. Here are those generations with their meaning.

17. Put it together
So, the generations from Adam to Noah in their original meanings can be read as follows: This states the plan of salvation/redemption of the Creator, thousands of years before it was fulfilled.

Moses wrote down Genesis. Did Moses write of Jesus?

Verse routeJohn 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. [kjv]

Jesus recounts this on the Road to Emaeus after Resurrection.

Verse routeLuke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. [kjv]

Information sign More: Genesis 5: A hidden plan of inherited salvation

18. Matthew 19:4 Male and female
Verse routeMatthew 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, [kjv]
Verse routeο δε αποκριθεις ειπεν ουκ ανεγνωτε οτι ο κτισας απ αρχης αρσεν και θηλυ εποιησεν αυτους [gnt]

4 generations

Some in the culture have trouble determining the difference between "male" and "female".

In the beginning, the gene pool was not contaminated. Mutations after that could, in certain cases, muddy the waters. Note that in order to answer a question, Jesus (and others) must "judge" since that Greek word is the root word of the word for "answer".


Information sign More: Matthew 7:1-2 Here comes the judge, but just barley
Information sign More: Matthew 19:1-12 Joined together

19. Matthew 19:5 Glued together
Verse routeMatthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? [kjv]
Verse routeκαι ειπεν ενεκα τουτου καταλειψει ανθρωπος τον πατερα και την μητερα και κολληθησεται τη γυναικι αυτου και εσονται οι δυο εις σαρκα μιαν [gnt]

Elmer's Glue-All
The ancient Greek word "κόλλα""glue, flower paste". The KJV (King James Version) translates as "cleave" the Greek word that means "joined" as in "glued". Some use the English word "cling" for "cleave". Barnabas makes the observation that one should not be "glued" to "sinners". Some translators, having the effect of providing reasons not to accept Barnabas, translate the word "glued" as "associate".
The English word "cleave" comes from the Middle English word "cleven""cleave, split" but could mean "adhere", "cling", "stick fast", etc.

Information sign More: Epistle of Barnabas
Information sign More: Matthew 5:27-28 Adulterated hearts
Information sign More: Matthew 19:1-12 Joined together

20. The idea of one God deception
 ▶ 
 + 
 - 
 1 
 2 
 3 
 4 
 5 
The selective evidence deception is to frame the problem in a way that omits important details.

[two adultery verses and two divorce verses skipping the two cutoff verses (eyes and hands) in the middle]
Verse routeJohn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [kjv]

Die sample spaceIf you do not believe in God, you believe that everything happens by chance.

Movie quote from the Matrix: Choice is an illusion, created between those with power, and those without. (reminds one of the "birds").

21. End of page

by RS  admin@creationpie.org : 1024 x 640