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Matthew 10:17-25 What to say about levels of persecution
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1. Matthew 10:17-25 What to say about levels of persecution
Verse routeMatthew 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; [kjv]
Verse routeπροσεχετε δε απο των ανθρωπων παραδωσουσιν γαρ υμας εις συνεδρια και εν ταις συναγωγαις αυτων μαστιγωσουσιν υμας [gnt]
Verse route10:18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. [kjv]
Verse route10:19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. [kjv]
Verse routeοταν δε παραδωσιν υμας μη μεριμνησητε πως η τι λαλησητε δοθησεται γαρ υμιν εν εκεινη τη ωρα τι λαλησητε [gnt]
Verse route10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. [kjv]
Verse routeου γαρ υμεις εστε οι λαλουντες αλλα το πνευμα του πατρος υμων το λαλουν εν υμιν [gnt]

These verses appear to indicate that this discourse is carefully worded to apply to all time and not just this particular mission or to just the House of Israel.

2. Matthew 10:17-18 Persecution
Verse routeMatthew 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; [kjv]
Verse routeπροσεχετε δε απο των ανθρωπων παραδωσουσιν γαρ υμας εις συνεδρια και εν ταις συναγωγαις αυτων μαστιγωσουσιν υμας [gnt]
Verse route10:18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. [kjv]

These verses appear to indicate that this discourse is carefully worded to apply to all time and not just this particular mission or to just the House of Israel.

The ancient Greek word "συνέδριον""council" as in an "advising body" or "governing body". This is a man-made organization. The word comes from two words and means, literally, "sitting together". This word can be a play on words with "together three" as in the "three" parts of Satan, also represented as "gold", "silver" and "copper".

The ancient Greek word "συναγωγή""gathering" as in a "synagogue" and can be a play on words with the three constituent words "together", "lead, bring, go" and "earth".

3. Revelation 3:9 Synagogue
Verse routeRevelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. [kjv]
Verse routeιδου διδω εκ της συναγωγης του σατανα των λεγοντων εαυτους ιουδαιους ειναι και ουκ εισιν αλλα ψευδονται ιδου ποιησω αυτους ινα ηξουσιν και προσκυνησουσιν ενωπιον των ποδων σου και γνωσιν οτι εγω ηγαπησα σε [gnt]


The ancient Greek word "συναγωγή""gathering" and is the source of the English word "synagogue" which is a Greek word and not a Hebrew word. This word can be a play on words with the three constituent words "together", "lead, bring, go" and "earth". Discuss:

4. Matthew 5:22 Council
Verse routeMatthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. [kjv]
Verse routeεγω δε λεγω υμιν οτι πας ο οργιζομενος τω αδελφω αυτου ενοχος εσται τη κρισει ος δ αν ειπη τω αδελφω αυτου ρακα ενοχος εσται τω συνεδριω ος δ αν ειπη μωρε ενοχος εσται εις την γεενναν του πυρος [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "συνέδριον""council" as in an "advising body" or "governing body". This is a man-made organization. The word comes from two words and means, literally, "sitting together".
The last part of the Greek word for "council" as in "seat" is the source of the last part of the Latin phrase "ex cathedra""from out of the chair". This phrase is used to refer to the Pope making "infallible" pronouncements from "the out of the chair". This takes God's "throne" (12 verses away) and puts it under human power.

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5. Matthew 10:19 Hour to speak
Verse routeMatthew 10:19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. [kjv]
Verse routeοταν δε παραδωσιν υμας μη μεριμνησητε πως η τι λαλησητε δοθησεται γαρ υμιν εν εκεινη τη ωρα τι λαλησητε [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "ὥρα""period of time, season, year, time of day hour".

The ancient Greek word "ῥέω""flow, stream, run, gush".

What Jesus says may apply to a period of time greater than a literal "hour".

Some pastors may use this verse as an excuse for not preparing a sermon.

[game show sermons]

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6. Matthew 10:19-20 Say what
Verse routeMatthew 10:19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. [kjv]
Verse routeοταν δε παραδωσιν υμας μη μεριμνησητε πως η τι λαλησητε δοθησεται γαρ υμιν εν εκεινη τη ωρα τι λαλησητε [gnt]
Verse route10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. [kjv]
Verse routeου γαρ υμεις εστε οι λαλουντες αλλα το πνευμα του πατρος υμων το λαλουν εν υμιν [gnt]

The business JIT (Just In Time) idea allows actions and speaking to be taken when needed instead of the business JIC (Just In Case) idea whereby one is never really ready until the "last" "farthing" has been paid, which will never happen.
This verse does not provide a Biblical excuse for pastors to not prepare sermons.

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7. Luke 12:12 Eager and lazy ideas
Verse routeLuke 12:12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say. [kjv]
Verse routeτο γαρ αγιον πνευμα διδαξει υμας εν αυτη τη ωρα α δει ειπειν [gnt]

Apparently one does not need to be taught "everything" by the Holy Spirit.

One will be "taught" just in time for what needs to be said. That will work if the Holy Spirit is available to teach always.

That principle has been used in business for many years now. Storing inventory has a storage cost, can go bad, might be lost, etc. [fractals, time perception]

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8. Matthew 10:17
Verse routeMatthew 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; [kjv]
Verse routeπροσεχετε δε απο των ανθρωπων παραδωσουσιν γαρ υμας εις συνεδρια και εν ταις συναγωγαις αυτων μαστιγωσουσιν υμας [gnt]

In this chapter, the "men" appear to be associated with the "birds", the false leaders and false teachers and those who work for them (i.e., the "pigs" who will crack you up in various ways). Does this verse have a literal or symbolic meaning (or both)?

9. Matthew 10:17
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KJV: But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
Greek: προσεχετε δε απο των ανθρωπων παραδωσουσιν γαρ υμας εις συνεδρια και εν ταις συναγωγαις αυτων μαστιγωσουσιν υμας

10. Matthew 10:18
Verse routeMatthew 10:18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. [kjv]

This verse appear to indicate that this discourse is carefully worded to apply to all time and not just this particular mission or to just the House of Israel.

11. Matthew 10:18
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KJV: And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
Greek: και επι ηγεμονας δε και βασιλεις αχθησεσθε ενεκεν εμου εις μαρτυριον αυτοις και τοις εθνεσιν

12. Matthew 10:19
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KJV: But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
Greek: οταν δε παραδιδωσιν παραδωσιν υμας μη μεριμνησητε πως η τι λαλησητε δοθησεται γαρ υμιν εν εκεινη τη ωρα τι λαλησετε λαλησητε

13. Matthew 10:20
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KJV: For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
Greek: ου γαρ υμεις εστε οι λαλουντες αλλα το πνευμα του πατρος υμων το λαλουν εν υμιν

14. Matthew 10:21-22 Persecution
Verse routeMatthew 10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. [kjv]
Verse routeπαραδωσει δε αδελφος αδελφον εις θανατον και πατηρ τεκνον και επαναστησονται τεκνα επι γονεις και θανατωσουσιν αυτους [gnt]
Verse route10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. [kjv]

The "delivering" up of one another is reminiscent of the Olivet Discourse about the End Times in Matthew 24.

The Greek word for "deliver" is that of "betray" and is related to the word for "tradition". All are things that are "handed over", the literal meaning of the word.

[euthanasia]

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15. Matthew 10:21
Verse routeMatthew 10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. [kjv]
Verse routeπαραδωσει δε αδελφος αδελφον εις θανατον και πατηρ τεκνον και επαναστησονται τεκνα επι γονεις και θανατωσουσιν αυτους [gnt]


16. Matthew 10:21
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KJV: And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
Greek: παραδωσει δε αδελφος αδελφον εις θανατον και πατηρ τεκνον και επαναστησονται τεκνα επι γονεις και θανατωσουσιν αυτους

17. Matthew 10:22
Verse routeMatthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. [kjv]


18. Matthew 10:22
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KJV: And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Greek: και εσεσθε μισουμενοι υπο παντων δια το ονομα μου ο δε υπομεινας εις τελος ουτος σωθησεται

19. Matthew 10:23 Flee persecution
Verse routeMatthew 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. [kjv]
Verse routeοταν δε διωκωσιν υμας εν τη πολει ταυτη φευγετε εις την ετεραν αμην γαρ λεγω υμιν ου μη τελεσητε τας πολεις του του ισραηλ εως ελθη ο υιος του ανθρωπου [gnt]

The "flee" to "another" is reminiscent of the "cities" of "refuge" in the OT (Old Testament).

These verses appear to describe how the (people of the) "world" has treated the Jews in general since then. The same has been true, to a lesser extent, for Christians.

The Greek word for "persecute" is that of "pursuit". In context, it may be "persecution".

The Greek word for "other" used here is that of a "different other" as in the first part of the English word "heterosexual".

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20. Philippians 3:6,14 Pursing persecution
The ancient Greek word "διώκω""pursue" in the sense of "going after" or, in context, "persecuting". The Greek word "blameless" is "without spots".
Verse routePhilippians 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. [kjv]
Verse routeκατα ζηλος διωκων την εκκλησιαν κατα δικαιοσυνην την εν νομω γενομενος αμεμπτος [gnt]

Paul was "pursuing" in the wrong direction in a "physical" way according to man's "righteousness". The Greek for "zeal" is that of "competing with others for the same goal".

Paul is now "pursuing" (same word) in the right direction in a "non-physical" way.
Verse route3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. [kjv]
Verse routeκατα σκοπον διωκω εις το βραβειον της ανω κλησεως του θεου εν χριστω ιησου [gnt]



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21. Matthew 10:23
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KJV: But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
Greek: οταν δε διωκωσιν υμας εν τη πολει ταυτη φευγετε εις την αλλην ετεραν αμην γαρ λεγω υμιν ου μη τελεσητε τας πολεις του του ισραηλ εως αν ελθη ο υιος του ανθρωπου

22. Matthew 10:24 Beelzebub projection
Verse routeMatthew 10:24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. [kjv]
Verse routeουκ εστιν μαθητης υπερ τον διδασκαλον ουδε δουλος υπερ τον κυριον αυτου [gnt]

Greater than Integer domain

The idea of not above is that of not greater or less than or equal to. One would want to be "above" the "master" or "lord" in order to be "great".

If neither is "above" or "over" then perhaps they are at the same level.

Would any author of a book of the GNT (Greek New Testament) write that someone should be "under" or "over" "another"?

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23. Matthew 10:25 Beelzebub projection
Verse routeMatthew 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? [kjv]
Verse routeαρκετον τω μαθητη ινα γενηται ως ο διδασκαλος αυτου και ο δουλος ως ο κυριος αυτου ει τον οικοδεσποτην βεεζεβουλ επεκαλεσαν ποσω μαλλον τους οικιακους αυτου [gnt]

The psychological idea of projection is that of accusing others of doing or thinking what you are doing or thinking. Here, given the projection of the religious establishment, Jesus associates the religious establishment with Beelzebub, Satan, etc., and the "master of the house" with himself.
The Greek word translated as "more" is that of "rather (instead)".

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24. Matthew 10:25 Rather
Verse routeMatthew 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? [kjv]
Verse routeαρκετον τω μαθητη ινα γενηται ως ο διδασκαλος αυτου και ο δουλος ως ο κυριος αυτου ει τον οικοδεσποτην βεεζεβουλ επεκαλεσαν ποσω μαλλον τους οικιακους αυτου [gnt]

The Greek translated as "more" is that of the ancient Greek word "μᾶλλον""rather (instead)" as in "rather than" or "instead of". In a comparison, in context, it could be "rather more". The modern Greek word "μάλλον" (MAL-lon) ≈ "rather, more precisely".

25. Strongs - house members
*G3615 *2 οἰκιακός (oy-kee-ak-os') : from G3614; familiar, i.e. (as noun) relatives:--they (them) of (his own) household.
Word usage per chapter Words: οικιακοι οικιακους=1

Household and with cause , of hearing

The TR (Textus Receptus) adds "without a cause" in the "angry" with the "brother" in the Sermon on the Mount.

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26. Strongs - house members
  • *G3615 *2 οἰκιακός (oy-kee-ak-os') : from G3614; familiar, i.e. (as noun) relatives:--they (them) of (his own) household.
  •  Usage 
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    • οικιακους
      •   Matthew 10:25 ... how much more shall they call them of his household?
    • οικιακοι
      •   Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

27. Matthew 10:25 Householder
Verse routeMatthew 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? [kjv]
Verse routeαρκετον τω μαθητη ινα γενηται ως ο διδασκαλος αυτου και ο δουλος ως ο κυριος αυτου ει τον οικοδεσποτην βεεζεβουλ επεκαλεσαν ποσω μαλλον τους οικιακους αυτου [gnt]

Household and with cause , of hearing

Paraphrase: ... how much rather of the house members [without cause, of hearing] of him/it. (Jesus/Beelzebub)

Is the ambiguous "him" or "it" that of "Jesus" or, perhaps, "Beelzebub"? The play on word paraphrase projects what they are projecting back on them.That is, Jesus is hinting that they are calling themselves "Beelzebub".

28. Matthew 13:57 House
Verse routeMatthew 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι εσκανδαλιζοντο εν αυτω ο δε ιησους ειπεν αυτοις ουκ εστιν προφητης ατιμος ει μη εν τη πατριδι και εν τη οικια αυτου [gnt]

House Greek letter
[Sandwich, werewolf, Warwick]
What might Jesus mean when he uses the (code) word "house"?

Attic law distinction: Church distinction: house as the gathering of believers versus house as the building.

How might this distinction be made with the "house" (property, etc.) in the "house" built on "rock" and the "house" built on "sand" in the Sermon on the Mount?

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29. Matthew 10:24
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KJV: The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.
Greek: ουκ εστιν μαθητης υπερ τον διδασκαλον ουδε δουλος υπερ τον κυριον αυτου

30. Matthew 10:25
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KJV: It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
Greek: αρκετον τω μαθητη ινα γενηται ως ο διδασκαλος αυτου και ο δουλος ως ο κυριος αυτου ει τον οικοδεσποτην βεελζεβουλ εκαλεσαν βεεζεβουλ επεκαλεσαν ποσω μαλλον τους οικιακους αυτου

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